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Chess isn't chess unless the time control is at least 60mins with 30 second increment

#11

#9
I understand your concern about people moving too fast in classical settings. I also sometimes fall for that, usually in the conversion between opening and middle-game when I fail to realize that it's time to start thinking deeper.
I think it's mainly because of the nature of online chess play. So many people are use to playing bullet and blitz that they think that they should move as fast as possible. They don't realize that classical games aren't nearly as much of a race as bullet and blitz. I played a correspondence game against someone with a 2100 rating in classical games and our game ended in a draw. A quick mouse-over on my name will show you that that should not have happened. Why did it? He wasn't thinking, he moved way too quickly. It was a correspondence game with 2 days per move, he could have actually thought about those moves but he didn't. Still a great game and I enjoyed it but it just shows how much your game suffers when you don't think about your moves.

#9 I understand your concern about people moving too fast in classical settings. I also sometimes fall for that, usually in the conversion between opening and middle-game when I fail to realize that it's time to start thinking deeper. I think it's mainly because of the nature of online chess play. So many people are use to playing bullet and blitz that they think that they should move as fast as possible. They don't realize that classical games aren't nearly as much of a race as bullet and blitz. I played a correspondence game against someone with a 2100 rating in classical games and our game ended in a draw. A quick mouse-over on my name will show you that that should not have happened. Why did it? He wasn't thinking, he moved way too quickly. It was a correspondence game with 2 days per move, he could have actually thought about those moves but he didn't. Still a great game and I enjoyed it but it just shows how much your game suffers when you don't think about your moves.
#12

Indeed. Even in blitz games just stopping to think for 20-30 seconds in a critical position has won me quite a few games. Time pressure isn't a factor if you checkmate before your clock runs out. ;)

Indeed. Even in blitz games just stopping to think for 20-30 seconds in a critical position has won me quite a few games. Time pressure isn't a factor if you checkmate before your clock runs out. ;)
#13

Even in longer game fast play in the open normally signifies that the opponent has studied the open line from a book and knows the line and numerous variation and transpositions - this gives the clock advantage later in the middle game where you are normally out of book and playing chess with the opponent rather than Casablanca or Fischer or Carlsen then you move into end game where moves can speed up again because a lot of end game theory is easier to analyse as there are less pieces and "maybe" less options. Anyway that what I find and normally play like in longer games - its the sign of someone who is either an older type club player or as you stated a blitz player - anyway that's my generalisation and it works for me.

Even in longer game fast play in the open normally signifies that the opponent has studied the open line from a book and knows the line and numerous variation and transpositions - this gives the clock advantage later in the middle game where you are normally out of book and playing chess with the opponent rather than Casablanca or Fischer or Carlsen then you move into end game where moves can speed up again because a lot of end game theory is easier to analyse as there are less pieces and "maybe" less options. Anyway that what I find and normally play like in longer games - its the sign of someone who is either an older type club player or as you stated a blitz player - anyway that's my generalisation and it works for me.
#14

The reason nobody played such long time controls is because it's boring

The reason nobody played such long time controls is because it's boring
#15

#13
I think you're right, opening quickly in the opening and end-game is more common in top level play than mid-game, because opening and end-game are both heavily discussed in books.

#14
Chess isn't boring. I'd rather say the reason is because of cell phones and texting and stuff, everyone has ADD these days. They can't even pay attention to something for half an hour.

#13 I think you're right, opening quickly in the opening and end-game is more common in top level play than mid-game, because opening and end-game are both heavily discussed in books. #14 Chess isn't boring. I'd rather say the reason is because of cell phones and texting and stuff, everyone has ADD these days. They can't even pay attention to something for half an hour.
#16

@OP International Master Greg Shahade, along with many other players, disagree. http://www.gregshahade.com/
Look for "Slow Chess Should Die A Fast Death"

I can agree that the longer the time control, the higher quality of the game. However, 30 minute games, 5 minute games, and .5 minute games are all still chess.

You can say that 60 + 30 is your preference, but you can't say that any time control faster than that isn't chess.

@OP International Master Greg Shahade, along with many other players, disagree. http://www.gregshahade.com/ Look for "Slow Chess Should Die A Fast Death" I can agree that the longer the time control, the higher quality of the game. However, 30 minute games, 5 minute games, and .5 minute games are all still chess. You can say that 60 + 30 is your preference, but you can't say that any time control faster than that isn't chess.
#17

Blitz is for fun, slow game is more serious, that's the difference for me between this two types of game.
When I play a Blitz, I don't play my current openings and stuff, I just improvise for fun and if some new opening or variant sound interesting to me when I play, I keep the idea for the longer games.

Blitz is for fun, slow game is more serious, that's the difference for me between this two types of game. When I play a Blitz, I don't play my current openings and stuff, I just improvise for fun and if some new opening or variant sound interesting to me when I play, I keep the idea for the longer games.
#18

Funny enough...

Many top chess players do not take rapid, blitz and bullet chess as seriously as they do chess with standard time controls. Some dismissive quotes from top chess players on the topic of it are the following:

"Playing rapid chess, one can lose the habit of concentrating for several hours in serious chess. That is why, if a player has big aims, he should limit his rapidplay in favour of serious chess."
– Vladimir Kramnik[51]

"Yes, I have played a blitz game once. It was on a train, in 1929." – Mikhail Botvinnik[51]

"He who analyses blitz is stupid."
– Rashid Nezhmetdinov[51]

"Blitz chess kills your ideas."
– Bobby Fischer[51]

"To be honest, I consider [bullet chess] a bit moronic, and therefore I never play it."
– Vladimir Kramnik[52]

"Blitz – it's just a pleasure."
– Vladimir Kramnik[53]

"I play way too much blitz chess. It rots the brain just as surely as alcohol."
– Nigel Short[54]

"Blitz is simply a waste of time."
– Vladimir Malakhov[55]

Funny enough... Many top chess players do not take rapid, blitz and bullet chess as seriously as they do chess with standard time controls. Some dismissive quotes from top chess players on the topic of it are the following: "Playing rapid chess, one can lose the habit of concentrating for several hours in serious chess. That is why, if a player has big aims, he should limit his rapidplay in favour of serious chess." – Vladimir Kramnik[51] "Yes, I have played a blitz game once. It was on a train, in 1929." – Mikhail Botvinnik[51] "He who analyses blitz is stupid." – Rashid Nezhmetdinov[51] "Blitz chess kills your ideas." – Bobby Fischer[51] "To be honest, I consider [bullet chess] a bit moronic, and therefore I never play it." – Vladimir Kramnik[52] "Blitz – it's just a pleasure." – Vladimir Kramnik[53] "I play way too much blitz chess. It rots the brain just as surely as alcohol." – Nigel Short[54] "Blitz is simply a waste of time." – Vladimir Malakhov[55]
#20

Masquerade I already pasted those quotes, learn to read the whole thread before posting ty

Masquerade I already pasted those quotes, learn to read the whole thread before posting ty

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