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#12

@kaotic99 said in #11:

I'm not too familiar with the subject but it does seem lag-switch-cheating is a thing.

Yes that looks familiar. That top bullet game would never end.

@kaotic99 said in #11: > I'm not too familiar with the subject but it does seem lag-switch-cheating is a thing. Yes that looks familiar. That top bullet game would never end.
#13

Some guys cheat time.
I do not give them a nice comment.

Some guys cheat time. I do not give them a nice comment.
#14

What a shame for cheaters! I don't know what they gain from cheating others. They're scammers, trying to win a few fake points on an online chess server. Why do people behave like that? Disgusting.

What a shame for cheaters! I don't know what they gain from cheating others. They're scammers, trying to win a few fake points on an online chess server. Why do people behave like that? Disgusting.
#16

lag switch cheating gains very little. It is meaningful thing only in bullet and ultra bullet. Ultrabullet is not chess. fun game I presume. Given that it usually requires special hardware it cannot be common. and eliminating it would require removing lag-compensation severely handicapping people with poor connection.

lag switch cheating gains very little. It is meaningful thing only in bullet and ultra bullet. Ultrabullet is not chess. fun game I presume. Given that it usually requires special hardware it cannot be common. and eliminating it would require removing lag-compensation severely handicapping people with poor connection.
#17

you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature.

when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove.

you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock.

if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage.

one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check.

if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending.

I mainly try to put them in check.

you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature. when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove. you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock. if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage. one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check. if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending. I mainly try to put them in check.
#18

@h2b2 said in #17:

you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature.

when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove.

you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock.

if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage.

one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check.

if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending.

I mainly try to put them in check.

This is most helpful. Thank you.

@h2b2 said in #17: > you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature. > > when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove. > > you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock. > > if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage. > > one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check. > > if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending. > > I mainly try to put them in check. This is most helpful. Thank you.
#19

@petri999 said in #16:

lag switch cheating gains very little. It is meaningful thing only in bullet and ultra bullet. Ultrabullet is not chess. fun game I presume. Given that it usually requires special hardware it cannot be common. and eliminating it would require removing lag-compensation severely handicapping people with poor connection.

Lag compensation is a glitch, a failure, an algorithm that penalizes good connection users.

On the other hand, you can't say, and I quote "lag switch cheating gains very little". It's a cheat, and it can't be allowed.

If you run a chess server, you must pursue cheaters in every aspect, either those that harm a lot or a little. A cheater is a cheater no matter what they do.

@petri999 said in #16: > lag switch cheating gains very little. It is meaningful thing only in bullet and ultra bullet. Ultrabullet is not chess. fun game I presume. Given that it usually requires special hardware it cannot be common. and eliminating it would require removing lag-compensation severely handicapping people with poor connection. Lag compensation is a glitch, a failure, an algorithm that penalizes good connection users. On the other hand, you can't say, and I quote "lag switch cheating gains very little". It's a cheat, and it can't be allowed. If you run a chess server, you must pursue cheaters in every aspect, either those that harm a lot or a little. A cheater is a cheater no matter what they do.
#20

@h2b2 said in #17:

you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature.

when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove.

you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock.

if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage.

one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check.

if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending.

I mainly try to put them in check.

No, they don't. We're seeing a cheat, not a player pre-moving with a crystal ball since move no 1. Why do you guys always try to be acquiescent with cheaters? Every single chess server is at war against cheaters. They're everywhere and they're thousands. They have to be deleted and erased.

@h2b2 said in #17: > you could be seeing premoving. that's not cheating. it's a feature. > > when it's your move and your clock is ticking, your opponent can make a move that will execute as soon as you move. that's called a premove. > > you're opponent doesn't know yet what your move will be, but they can commit a move in the blind. regardless of what your move is, their premove will execute (if it's a legal move) as soon as you move and not subtract any time from their clock. > > if time is getting low and you notice everytime you move, your opponent moves instantly, they are probably premoving and either guessing or not even caring what your next move will be. so you can use that to your advantage. > > one way is to put them in check. if their premove doesn't get them out of check, it will be cancelled and start their clock. If they have 2 seconds and you have, say, 30 and have a piece or too to spare, sac a piece to put them in check. > > if they're premoving, they're probably move the same piece every time. so try to guess where they might premove it to next, and put a piece near by so you can take it, even if that means putting your piece on a square they are defending. > > I mainly try to put them in check. No, they don't. We're seeing a cheat, not a player pre-moving with a crystal ball since move no 1. Why do you guys always try to be acquiescent with cheaters? Every single chess server is at war against cheaters. They're everywhere and they're thousands. They have to be deleted and erased.

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