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andrewchessbot1

#1

whats the best defense to e4

CM Sarg0n

#2

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Closed^^

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Autofill

#3

There is no best defense but I prefer c5

Shadow1414 edited

#4

Practically, 1. c5, since records’ve shown it scores the best for black.

andrewchessbot1

#5

why does computer say e5 is better

ShreksGonGiveItToYa

#6

@andrewchessbot1 I mean e5 is more sharp and aggressive. According to engine’s statistic black has higher chances of winning or equalizing rather the move e5 rather than c6 or e6. But the thing is, after e5 white has battering plans on middle part in which would really make you scratch your head and would be difficult to play. With c6 sure white get comfortable and flexible development and a very nice piece activity. Might as well as include the advance variation gaining a spacious advantage but they aren’t really confrontational comparing that to e5.
But overall I don’t think you should be fixated with engine’s primarily recommendation on openings. We aren’t engines we are humans. You should play openings in which you are comfortable at, either positional or aggressive. You could experiment with e5 or c5, e6, c6, or even g6, but you might not like it or be happy with white’s middlegame usual plans in each individual openings.

@andrewchessbot1 I mean e5 is more sharp and aggressive. According to engine’s statistic black has higher chances of winning or equalizing rather the move e5 rather than c6 or e6. But the thing is, after e5 white has battering plans on middle part in which would really make you scratch your head and would be difficult to play. With c6 sure white get comfortable and flexible development and a very nice piece activity. Might as well as include the advance variation gaining a spacious advantage but they aren’t really confrontational comparing that to e5. But overall I don’t think you should be fixated with engine’s primarily recommendation on openings. We aren’t engines we are humans. You should play openings in which you are comfortable at, either positional or aggressive. You could experiment with e5 or c5, e6, c6, or even g6, but you might not like it or be happy with white’s middlegame usual plans in each individual openings.

Autofill

#7

@andrewchessbot1 said in #5:

why does computer say e5 is better
There is no best defense to e5
With perfect play almost any opening will result in a draw

@andrewchessbot1 said in #5: > why does computer say e5 is better There is no best defense to e5 With perfect play almost any opening will result in a draw

Willem-II

#8

Take a look at what 2700+ players employ against other 2700+ players. I suspect you'll find the most frequent responses to 1.e4 are 1...e5 and 1..c5. Nowadays, in the Sicilian (1...c5) the Najdorf and Chelyabinsk variations are very highly respected by White 1.e4 players. And against 1...e5, in the Spanish (2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5), the Marshall, Breyer, and Berlin can be very hard to play against.

petri999

#9

best is the one you like and lead to middle games you comfortable with. Objectively e5 is best according to most engines. But for humand e6,e5,d6,d6,c5,c6 are practically equal. nuances that make e5 best probably escape most humans

AsDaGo

#10

@Shadow1414 said in #4:

Practically, 1. c4, since records’ve shown it scores the best for black.

So you mean picking up your opponent's e-pawn after they played e4, putting it back on e2, and then putting their c-pawn on c4 instead? I don't think your opponent would be happy with that (or the arbiter).

@Shadow1414 said in #4: > Practically, 1. c4, since records’ve shown it scores the best for black. So you mean picking up your opponent's e-pawn after they played e4, putting it back on e2, and then putting their c-pawn on c4 instead? I don't think your opponent would be happy with that (or the arbiter).