https://www.chess.com/member/vladimirkramnik?ref_id=43524416
https://perlenvombodensee.de/2022/07/03/schmutzig-und-respektlos-kramnik-teilt-gegen-keymer-aus/
Yet another famous forking legend!
@Sarg0n said in #2:
> Yet another famous forking legend!
Exactly what crossed my mind when I heard about this.
Just play with increment and there is no flagging opportunity and no discussion.
This was a clash of two worlds:
Kramnik, 47 years, former world champion.
Keymer, 17 years, young talent and ultrabullet player (15 seconds per player/game).
Situation:
Kramnik with a won position and 20 seconds on the clock.
Keymer with 10 seconds on the clock.
It's flagging for Kramnik but it's 2/3 time of a ultrabullet game for Keymer. Two different worlds.
@Meriten said in #4:
> This was a clash of two worlds
Nah, it was just one sore loser. If Kramnik is winning, flagging is ok
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1266469
Please inform: Isn't (high level) flagging meant to bring moderator's attention that an opponent 'might' have cheated? Essentially requesting something be looked into? I can guarantee you that moderator's took a look into the game after the flag.
@juliegirl1999 said in #6:
> Please inform: Isn't (high level) flagging meant to bring moderator's attention that an opponent 'might' have cheated? Essentially requesting something be looked into? I can guarantee you that moderator's took a look into the game after the flag.
The "flagging" that is being discussed in this situation is in regards to "having your clock run to zero" and being out-of-time. It's a term from OTB play that referenced the time clock. In other situations, like online play, the term "flagging" could be used as a method of reporting suspicious play.
@MrBMandaree Thank you.
funny to call Vincent an ultrabullet player. Obvsly he can play ultrabullet too but here he only has 500 ultrabullet games compared to 10000 bullet games.
Kramnik's just being a sore loser here.
@juliegirl1999 @MrBMandaree the word is used in two ways indeed.
in context of games: "flagging / getting flagged" = losing your time, as old chess clocks had flags that dropped when the minute hand passed it. even weirdly enough, the word "flagging" may be used both actively and passively, both for the person winning on time as well as the person forfeiting on time
in context of lichess accounts: we also say "flagged account" cuz there are flag symbols to report a player on many platforms, and the red mark clearly brands an account, so we also sometimes say "your account is flagged" etc
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