Question about tempi ... what to do with the bishop on g6 in this position? 1600 ELO strenght • page 2/2 • Game analysis • lichess.org

@WassimBerbar I think the OP asked for what to do as WHITE in the given position... :D

Have fun!
Ah, it was WHITE to move? I'm absolutely sorry, when you asked about "what to do with the bishop on g6" I thought it was for Black to move.

I guess the best thing for White to do is launch Harry and Garry to trap the bishop, and if they try too save him with h6 or h5 you will storm the pawns and open the Black king, all of this while keeping a closed center so that the white bishops won't get out so easily, and your knights can jump around easily.

@derkleineJo said in #9: > @WassimBerbar I think the OP asked for what to do as WHITE in the given position... :D > > Have fun! Ah, it was WHITE to move? I'm absolutely sorry, when you asked about "what to do with the bishop on g6" I thought it was for Black to move. I guess the best thing for White to do is launch Harry and Garry to trap the bishop, and if they try too save him with h6 or h5 you will storm the pawns and open the Black king, all of this while keeping a closed center so that the white bishops won't get out so easily, and your knights can jump around easily.

CM Sarg0n

#12

Kramnik once said that the good Bishop g2 in the Stonewall in no ounce better than the bad one on c8.

Guys, you need horsie! With 16 pawns on the board there are no good Bishops, they are all bad.

Kramnik once said that the good Bishop g2 in the Stonewall in no ounce better than the bad one on c8. Guys, you need horsie! With 16 pawns on the board there are no good Bishops, they are all bad.

Akbar2thegreat

#13

@Acountforpuzzles said in #7:

It's this game www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102354
The Queen trap by White was great!

@Acountforpuzzles said in #7: > It's this game www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102354 The Queen trap by White was great!

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#14

@Acountforpuzzles said in #7:

TLDR How should white exploit weak black bishop ?

It is a matter of long term strategy. Once you notice that the Bishop on g6 will never be getting out, you should execute a simple plan consisting of two things:

(1) Trade off as many of the other pieces as possible.
(2) Play on the other wing.

The rationale behind part (1) of this plan is that the weakness of the Bishop on g6 will be relatively more prominent as the other pieces leave the board. The rationale behind part (2) is that the Bishop on g6 cannot participate on the Queenside - Black will essentially have an extra piece over there.

The classic game where this two-stage plan was demostrated in simple fashion is Winter-Capablanca, Hastings 1912.

I post it here for convenience. Notice that in the Capablanca game the colors are reversed, so the weak Bishop is on g3, not g6.

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1055995

By the way, the reason why this Capablanca game is so famous is not just because he executed the easy plan mentioned above so clearly, but because he CREATED the weakness of the Bishop on g3 in the first place, out of the opening. It's a positionally completely seamless game, start to finish.

@Acountforpuzzles said in #7: > TLDR How should white exploit weak black bishop ? It is a matter of long term strategy. Once you notice that the Bishop on g6 will never be getting out, you should execute a simple plan consisting of two things: (1) Trade off as many of the other pieces as possible. (2) Play on the other wing. The rationale behind part (1) of this plan is that the weakness of the Bishop on g6 will be relatively more prominent as the other pieces leave the board. The rationale behind part (2) is that the Bishop on g6 cannot participate on the Queenside - Black will essentially have an extra piece over there. The classic game where this two-stage plan was demostrated in simple fashion is Winter-Capablanca, Hastings 1912. I post it here for convenience. Notice that in the Capablanca game the colors are reversed, so the weak Bishop is on g3, not g6. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1055995 By the way, the reason why this Capablanca game is so famous is not just because he executed the easy plan mentioned above so clearly, but because he CREATED the weakness of the Bishop on g3 in the first place, out of the opening. It's a positionally completely seamless game, start to finish.