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It's certainly possible they checked with Alireza before doing so, but it doesn't seem likely. In which case it seems a serious breach of ethics. One problem is that others see someone on stream doing this and so they think it's fine, but really it's not.

For that matter, Streaming in general seems a bit suspect. I.e., you're talking about the game. I dunno but one big issue was when Aryan Tari, and Eric Hansen were playing against Firouzja, and they were essentially doing a team game or consultation game, in other words talking about it pretty openly. It's certainly possible they checked with Alireza before doing so, but it doesn't seem likely. In which case it seems a serious breach of ethics. One problem is that others see someone on stream doing this and so they think it's fine, but really it's not.

Herzogenrauch

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This is how i reported the account:

Dear lichess team,
I played the lichess Rapid-Arena against the player (--------------). I was very skeptical when the game started because of the username, because i think playing Hand-and-Brain does violate the Lichess fair play policy.

What is Hand-and-Brain ? :
Hand and brain is a chess variant intended to be played by pairs where one player is a hand and the other is the brain. The brain calls out a piece or a pawn (for example, “bishop”) as long as it is a legal move, and the hand should choose which bishop to move and where.

So basically im playing against two players!
After asking the player whether he is really playing Hand and Brain he wrote this in the chat:

"We are an account we play teacher-alumn, hand and brain".

You can find this in the arena chat: (------------------------------------------------)
And here as a screenshot: (i took a screenhot and uploaded it to imgur and then copy pasted the link)

So he admitted that he is using help of another player!

My problem is, that i lost to this account who was ~1400 at the time, but accordingly to (-----------------) i was not playing him alone.
I think using the help of an another player during a rated lichess arena game, is rating manipulation, because clearly he was not playing like a ~1400.

Thanks for your time dear lichess team!

This is how i reported the account: Dear lichess team, I played the lichess Rapid-Arena against the player (--------------). I was very skeptical when the game started because of the username, because i think playing Hand-and-Brain does violate the Lichess fair play policy. What is Hand-and-Brain ? : Hand and brain is a chess variant intended to be played by pairs where one player is a hand and the other is the brain. The brain calls out a piece or a pawn (for example, “bishop”) as long as it is a legal move, and the hand should choose which bishop to move and where. So basically im playing against two players! After asking the player whether he is really playing Hand and Brain he wrote this in the chat: "We are an account we play teacher-alumn, hand and brain". You can find this in the arena chat: (------------------------------------------------) And here as a screenshot: (i took a screenhot and uploaded it to imgur and then copy pasted the link) So he admitted that he is using help of another player! My problem is, that i lost to this account who was ~1400 at the time, but accordingly to (-----------------) i was not playing him alone. I think using the help of an another player during a rated lichess arena game, is rating manipulation, because clearly he was not playing like a ~1400. Thanks for your time dear lichess team!

Herzogenrauch

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Wow, lichess banned this account in minutes, i didnt get my rating back, but this wasnt my intention at all. I just wanted to clearify whether hand and brain is allowed or not!
https://imgur.com/1stQPSc
SO WE CAN COCNLUDE:
HAND AND BRAIN IS NOT ALLOWED IN RATED GAMES; ESPECIALLY IN RATED ARENAS!

I am writing in capital letters so that this message is not overlooked.

Wow, lichess banned this account in minutes, i didnt get my rating back, but this wasnt my intention at all. I just wanted to clearify whether hand and brain is allowed or not! https://imgur.com/1stQPSc SO WE CAN COCNLUDE: HAND AND BRAIN IS NOT ALLOWED IN RATED GAMES; ESPECIALLY IN RATED ARENAS! I am writing in capital letters so that this message is not overlooked.