@CSKA_Moscou said in #20:
In fact, the opening rhythm can be written more "orthodoxly" like this:
ΠΠ_Π_Π
It's the same rhythmic cell with two eighth notes on the beats and three offset on the weak part of the beat, which gives a slightly echo-like effect.
The original key is probably F major in Western tuning, more convenient for singing, but as is often the case during the studio mixing process, they slightly raised it by a half step to give this tonal color of Gb or F# major, which is a bit of an tribute to K-pop/J-pop, where there are often these things that sound a bit in strange keys to our occidental ears.
I love the motif at the very end, which introduces a particularly interesting disjointed intervallic movement with the minorized sixth of the key.
You guys are just showing off now, aren't you? :)
@CSKA_Moscou said in #20:
> In fact, the opening rhythm can be written more "orthodoxly" like this:
>
> ΠΠ_Π_Π
>
> It's the same rhythmic cell with two eighth notes on the beats and three offset on the weak part of the beat, which gives a slightly echo-like effect.
>
> The original key is probably F major in Western tuning, more convenient for singing, but as is often the case during the studio mixing process, they slightly raised it by a half step to give this tonal color of Gb or F# major, which is a bit of an tribute to K-pop/J-pop, where there are often these things that sound a bit in strange keys to our occidental ears.
>
> I love the motif at the very end, which introduces a particularly interesting disjointed intervallic movement with the minorized sixth of the key.
You guys are just showing off now, aren't you? :)
@CSKA_Moscou said in #20:
In fact, the opening rhythm can be written more "orthodoxly" like this:
ΠΠ_Π_Π
I was thinking of writing it like that, but I thought it was less confusing to just write the quarter notes. That notation does make it clearer that they're on the off beat though.
The original key is probably F major in Western tuning, more convenient for singing, but as is often the case during the studio mixing process, they slightly raised it by a half step to give this tonal color of Gb or F# major, which is a bit of an tribute to K-pop/J-pop, where there are often these things that sound a bit in strange keys to our occidental ears.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Why is F major more convenient for singing though? I'm not a singer, but I couldn't imagine singing just a half step higher would be much harder unless you're already at the very top of your range.
@CSKA_Moscou said in #20:
> In fact, the opening rhythm can be written more "orthodoxly" like this:
>
> ΠΠ_Π_Π
I was thinking of writing it like that, but I thought it was less confusing to just write the quarter notes. That notation does make it clearer that they're on the off beat though.
> The original key is probably F major in Western tuning, more convenient for singing, but as is often the case during the studio mixing process, they slightly raised it by a half step to give this tonal color of Gb or F# major, which is a bit of an tribute to K-pop/J-pop, where there are often these things that sound a bit in strange keys to our occidental ears.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Why is F major more convenient for singing though? I'm not a singer, but I couldn't imagine singing just a half step higher would be much harder unless you're already at the very top of your range.
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@AsDaGo said in #22:
Interesting, I didn't know that. Why is F major more convenient for singing though? I'm not a singer, but I couldn't imagine singing just a half step higher would be much harder unless you're already at the very top of your range.
because of the theory, singing in a key with more flats or sharps requires a certain effort to remember the accidentals (that's by learning by heart) and the accuracy of the note in relation to the sound spectrum - a natural shift of a quarter tone is quite imperceptible, but imagine that this shift occurs during a phrase, and it can have a bad effect. This is why keys with a lot of flats or sharps are particularly feared by singers, wind instrumentalists, and even bowed string instruments.
@AsDaGo said in #22:
> Interesting, I didn't know that. Why is F major more convenient for singing though? I'm not a singer, but I couldn't imagine singing just a half step higher would be much harder unless you're already at the very top of your range.
because of the theory, singing in a key with more flats or sharps requires a certain effort to remember the accidentals (that's by learning by heart) and the accuracy of the note in relation to the sound spectrum - a natural shift of a quarter tone is quite imperceptible, but imagine that this shift occurs during a phrase, and it can have a bad effect. This is why keys with a lot of flats or sharps are particularly feared by singers, wind instrumentalists, and even bowed string instruments.
I think in terms of melancholy nothing can beat folk songs. From "Danny Boy" to traditional Armenian tunes, from Bulgarian folklore to... idk, pick a random country. There is so much beautiful, gloomy stuff out there
I think in terms of melancholy nothing can beat folk songs. From "Danny Boy" to traditional Armenian tunes, from Bulgarian folklore to... idk, pick a random country. There is so much beautiful, gloomy stuff out there
What does melancholic even mean I searched the definition but it’s really confusing
What does melancholic even mean I searched the definition but it’s really confusing
In this case it's like it makes you very sad but you like it. Oh, now I see how it might be confusing. A bittersweet kind of thing
In this case it's like it makes you very sad but you like it. Oh, now I see how it might be confusing. A bittersweet kind of thing
also dunno how to word it ... looks like
'time gone by',
'time going on an' on, thereby creating vanity, uselessness in the end, of striving for achievements,
'oportunities left out' [what the fellow for Aznavour said].
all of this without too much sorrow though but embracing it as given thing, even wallowing within maybe in nostalgy (which seems related)
also dunno how to word it ... looks like
'time gone by',
'time going on an' on, thereby creating vanity, uselessness in the end, of striving for achievements,
'oportunities left out' [what the fellow for Aznavour said].
all of this without too much sorrow though but embracing it as given thing, even wallowing within maybe in nostalgy (which seems related)
Tom Waits could be pretty melancholy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hSjwCE2WI&list=RDb8hSjwCE2WI&start_radio=1
oh yeah right! ... ºblue valentineº, ºmoon over bourbon streetº, the whole album, and several other songs, swordfishtrombones, ( and that spoken poem ... 'ive seen it all in the window of the evening train (?) ... she's got a tattoed tear - one for every year he's away she said (?) ).
very very good suggestion!
oh yeah right! ... ºblue valentineº, ºmoon over bourbon streetº, the whole album, and several other songs, swordfishtrombones, ( and that spoken poem ... 'ive seen it all in the window of the evening train (?) ... she's got a tattoed tear - one for every year he's away she said (?) ).
very very good suggestion!