@ThunderClap said in #8:
> Teachers are very important & Nurses are very important
Very controversial points here.
I am sure that we will find some MAGA guys to come out and say the opposite.
We are really cooking here..!
@ThunderClap said in #9:
> Trump does not understand
All is empty, Thunderclap. The world is an illusion.
When you understand the sound of one hand clapping, you will understand politics.
(This sound is not a Thunderclap.)
@twighead said in #10:
> the only 'oligarchs' he goes against are those that don't want the US to become a one-party, fascist Christian nationalist state. Also who are these people you're talking about lmao, and also can you even vote in US elections
The problem with your statement is that Trump is something of a folk Libertarian who is not that intent on limiting free speech or basic rights, and during his first term none of that happened. During his second term? Again, none of that is happening.
There's lots of bluster, just like you get from the left, and there is even the active deplatforming and informal persecution of his enemies, but he has made no effort to create new legal precedents which would deprive citizens of their rights.
But perhaps your statement is meant to be hyperbolic.
@Decaffeinated said in #13:
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> > the only 'oligarchs' he goes against are those that don't want the US to become a one-party, fascist Christian nationalist state. Also who are these people you're talking about lmao, and also can you even vote in US elections
>
> The problem with your statement is that Trump is something of a folk Libertarian who is not that intent on limiting free speech or basic rights, and during his first term none of that happened. During his second term? Again, none of that is happening.
He's deported people for protesting, he deployed the marines against protestors in LA - his administration has introduced 41 anti-protesting bills in the last year. How is that not anti-1st amendment? How is deporting people who aren't from within 4000 miles of it- to fucking sudan without a trial not a violation of basic rights??
What is a folk libertarian? Someone that gives tax cuts to billionaires while cutting benefits for people actually need them - and spends billions on turning ICE into an army larger than most countries? It's big government - only for the wealthy.
@Decaffeinated said in #11:
> > Teachers are very important & Nurses are very important
>
> Very controversial points here.
>
> I am sure that we will find some MAGA guys to come out and say the opposite.
>
> We are really cooking here..!
What an absolutely " " response ... MAGA have weaker bodies & minds no ? So they will need Hospitals, Nurses & some schooling from time to time right ?
@twighead said in #14:
> >
> > > the only 'oligarchs' he goes against are those that don't want the US to become a one-party, fascist Christian nationalist state. Also who are these people you're talking about lmao, and also can you even vote in US elections
> >
> > The problem with your statement is that Trump is something of a folk Libertarian who is not that intent on limiting free speech or basic rights, and during his first term none of that happened. During his second term? Again, none of that is happening.
>
> He's deported people for protesting, he deployed the marines against protestors in LA - his administration has introduced 41 anti-protesting bills in the last year. How is that not anti-1st amendment? How is deporting people who aren't from within 4000 miles of it- to fucking sudan without a trial not a violation of basic rights??
>
> What is a folk libertarian? Someone that gives tax cuts to billionaires while cutting benefits for people actually need them - and spends billions on turning ICE into an army larger than most countries? It's big government - only for the wealthy.
What's the content of these bills though..? Inform me as to how it is taking away the first amendment rights.
Last I checked, the Democrats were very enthusiastic to point out that protests cannot interfere with offiical business or trespass on government property - in such a case they could even be seditious, right?
Also, do you think South Korea is wrong when we deport people who are living here illegally... and that is the only crime..? Or is there some special reason that the United States alone is not allowed to deport people illegally there..? I am trying to figure out if you are a "borders aren't real!" level 99 hippie or just someone who has imagined a scenario where America alone is the exception & everyone is entitled to go there.
@ThunderClap said in #15:
> > > Teachers are very important & Nurses are very important
> >
> > Very controversial points here.
> >
> > I am sure that we will find some MAGA guys to come out and say the opposite.
> >
> > We are really cooking here..!
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> What an absolutely " " response ... MAGA have weaker bodies & minds no ? So they will need Hospitals, Nurses & some schooling from time to time right ?
You make very short, non-responses all the time, and I was sort of making fun of that.
What are you saying now..? I was saying every single person thinks teachers & nurses are important.
You're a National Master in chess... How come, in politics, you cannot anticipate the most basic positions that your opponents have, but instead are projecting something that seems completely off topic and non sequitur to any discussion on public policy?
@Decaffeinated said in #16:
> > >
> > > > the only 'oligarchs' he goes against are those that don't want the US to become a one-party, fascist Christian nationalist state. Also who are these people you're talking about lmao, and also can you even vote in US elections
> > >
> > > The problem with your statement is that Trump is something of a folk Libertarian who is not that intent on limiting free speech or basic rights, and during his first term none of that happened. During his second term? Again, none of that is happening.
> >
> > He's deported people for protesting, he deployed the marines against protestors in LA - his administration has introduced 41 anti-protesting bills in the last year. How is that not anti-1st amendment? How is deporting people who aren't from within 4000 miles of it- to fucking sudan without a trial not a violation of basic rights??
> >
> > What is a folk libertarian? Someone that gives tax cuts to billionaires while cutting benefits for people actually need them - and spends billions on turning ICE into an army larger than most countries? It's big government - only for the wealthy.
>
> What's the content of these bills though..? Inform me as to how it is taking away the first amendment rights.
>
> Last I checked, the Democrats were very enthusiastic to point out that protests cannot interfere with offiical business or trespass on government property - in such a case they could even be seditious, right?
Read yourself, there's too many to go over everything,
https://www.icnl.org/usprotestlawtracker/?location=&status=enacted&issue=&date=&type=legislative
but in a gist - it's increased penalties for protesting near oil pipelines (clearly a fossil fuel bought bill after standing rock), up to 15 year prison sentence for wearing a mask, making it illegal to protest in a capital, allowing the sheriff or governor just say 'no' to gatherings over 20 people, increasing state power, decreasing areas where people "can" protest, increasing penalties for vague terms like "unlawful gathering" up to 10 years in prison. All of this is an assault on the right to gather.
Also never mentioned democrats, I'm against all restrictive acts
I could care less what South Korea does - East Asia makes the redneck US look mild in its implicit racism and xenophobia. It's one thing to deport someone who is in your country, it's another thing to deport them to another country on another continent, with no money, no ability to speak the local language, in a war zone - which comprises essentially a death warrant. The el salvador prison also, is well known for having 'no one ever leave'. Complete waste of tax payer $$ not relative to the crime.
The basic is ,,, Teachers & Nurses were just DEMOTED from professional status ... for no reason @Decaffeinated by the Trump Administration the very basic it's wrong is what it is
@ThunderClap said in #19:
> The basic is ,,, Teachers & Nurses were just DEMOTED from professional status ... for no reason @Decaffeinated by the Trump Administration the very basic it's wrong is what it is
you seem not to understand how this is good for us.
you see trump is trying to help the common man by taking bribes and helping out billionaires which will obviously help America because .... uhhh ... Auto pen ... ughh ... shut up don't insult my pedosent ... crap, I meant president