obamagate

@happysmile77 so are you proposing I contact the 2 million viewers of that video and ask them if having First Amendment rights are important?

I don't what the results would be but I bet a significant percentage do not view having First Amendment rights as important. You will deny it but the fact you are so upset about that video tells me you are also willing to give up your First Amendment rights just to avoid dealing with conflict. Same with the Second Amendment---many US citizens don't view that as important either.

The significant support that a socialist received running for president should tell you a lot about what people really want.

#49 Yup, China owns a large portion of USA debts. We'd do better from a security perspective by not selling new debts than we would building a second great wall.

"A damning dossier leaked from the “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance claims that China lied to the world about human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus, made whistleblowers disappear and refused to hand over virus samples so the West could make a vaccine."

So confirmed by intelligence reports.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/02/intelligence-report-says-china-lied-about-origin-of-coronavirus/

And if you doubt that the agency is not real.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/world/uk-us-five-eyes-intelligence-explainer/index.html

Funny difference between the United States and China , if you report on bad things the American government has done you end up on CNN , if you report on bad things done by the Chinese Government you disappear.

If China really is the only Superpower left we are all in big trouble.

#53 It wouldn't surprise me if this were indisputably true (as it strongly seems to be).

CNN regularly uses inflammatory language, presumably to attract viewers. However I think Snowden is right (acknowledging John Oliver's point in that interview) that people don't care what bad things USA is doing abroad.

@Mopman China takes their security seriously and everything public is controlled. The west allowed China to become a manufacturing and export giant and has mostly been silent while allowing China to build he largest military. The west will not be able to punish China for anything related to SARS-CoV-2.

Daniel2340
"@Mopman China takes their security seriously and everything public is controlled. The west allowed China to become a manufacturing and export giant and has mostly been silent while allowing China to build he largest military. The west will not be able to punish China for anything related to SARS-CoV-2."

I agree , this may very well be the case.

But this virus is far from a bioweapon. A bioweapon would have a weak spread (so that you dont get shot too) and a high fatality rate (so that it is truly deadly). Corona has neither.
"According to an LA Times article, the New York Post was reported to be the preferred newspaper of U.S. President Donald Trump, who maintains frequent contact with its owner, Rupert Murdoch. The Post, According to a survey conducted by Pace University in 2004, was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York. Further, The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch’s ownership for “sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias.”"
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/politics/coronavirus-intelligence/index.html (I get it is CNN but this is corona not election or whatever)
"The Australian government, which is part of the Five Eyes alliance, determined the leaked dossier was not a Five Eyes document, but a compilation of open-source materials that contained no information generated by intelligence gathering.[91]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation_related_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic

My argument is not about the nature of the Coronavirus but how China handled it .

You don't trust the NYP ok how about MSNBC ? ( not exactly a right wing news source right ? ) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-china-blocked-who-and-chinese-scientists-early-in-coronavirus-outbreak/ar-BB14VPNO

Or news from India ? https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/blogs/Whathappensif/how-china-locked-down-internally-for-covid-19-but-pushed-foreign-travel/

There are a lot more from a wide variety of sources.

I have a hard time believing the Chinese governments statements about the Coronavirus due to precedence , ie: the Tiananmen Square massacre . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests

Hundreds possibly thousands of deaths and STILL covered up today , and the official internal death toll from Corona that China releases is either a miracle or the same thing , which do you think is more likely?

Plus their recent action in Hong Kong https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-crackdown-on-hong-kong-threatens-global-order-eu-says/ar-BB14EDbS

China did not allow scientists to share any data they may have on the Coronavirus for a very long time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/world-health-organization-china-not-sharing-data-on-health-care-worker-coronavirus-infections/2020/02/26/28064fda-54e4-11ea-80ce-37a8d4266c09_story.html

I understand you dislike President Trump but this is more important than your American election , no matter who is the next President of your country they will have to deal with the Chinese Government.

"I understand you dislike President Trump but this is more important than your American election , no matter who is the next President of your country they will have to deal with the Chinese Government."

Thank you @Mopman for your keen understanding of the china threat. It is a very real threat, and to the entire civilized world.

@Mopman US rhetoric about China will quickly fade away. China has too many supporters and to much financial leverage over the US.