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Is true randomness real

@Aproximation asks "[w]hat is the intent of observing ....."

To marvel and delight. We can observe a wife. A child. A spaniel. A hippo AND The Hippo.

The Hippo is not, of course, the most beautiful of those. But it is delightful, nevertheless.

@Aproximation asks "[w]hat is the intent of observing ....." To marvel and delight. We can observe a wife. A child. A spaniel. A hippo AND The Hippo. The Hippo is not, of course, the most beautiful of those. But it is delightful, nevertheless.

@Noflaps I like them too..they can be dangerous but it is cute how they eat melons

@Noflaps I like them too..they can be dangerous but it is cute how they eat melons

Perhaps it's no coincidence. I like melons, too!

Perhaps it's no coincidence. I like melons, too!

Imo true randomness can exist, but only to human perspective. If you throw a dice, you can't know how it will fall, but if you have many scientists working on the trajectory of the dice and its rotation, you can predict on what face the dice will fall.

Imo true randomness can exist, but only to human perspective. If you throw a dice, you can't know how it will fall, but if you have many scientists working on the trajectory of the dice and its rotation, you _can_ predict on what face the dice will fall.

@WassimBerbar
You are right that it is only from a human perspective.
The scientists would say that it is scientifically proven that the dice has a 100 percent probability to land on all 6 sides simultaneously, in different parallell universes.

@WassimBerbar You are right that it is only from a human perspective. The scientists would say that it is scientifically proven that the dice has a 100 percent probability to land on all 6 sides simultaneously, in different parallell universes.

@Human77 said in #37:

@WassimBerbar
You are right that it is only from a human perspective.
The scientists would say that it is scientifically proven that the dice has a 100 percent probability to land on all 6 sides simultaneously, in different parallell universes.

The probability of an event only hints at the cause & effect, given levels of uncertainty.

Now, It would only seem that the probability of the sun rising tommorow is 100% based on the past data of information; but the trend-lines of all past data doesn't necccessarily forecast the future.

Why is that?

The answer is because Cause & effect determines the outcome; not probability.

How is the dice rolled? How does the sun come to rise; day in and day out? Until these questions can be answered with certainty, all we know about these events is probability, whereas Cause & effect is best described like the domino effect (a chain reaction without inturption). In theory, if the first domino falls; that cause determines the effect of all dominos falling.

The difference with dice and the sun, is in rolling the dice, or in observing the past sun rises - that doesn't describe how the dice is rolled, or how much sunlight the sun still has to give us, as that giant fireball burns away in the Milky Way Galaxy.

@Human77 said in #37: > @WassimBerbar > You are right that it is only from a human perspective. > The scientists would say that it is scientifically proven that the dice has a 100 percent probability to land on all 6 sides simultaneously, in different parallell universes. The probability of an event only hints at the cause & effect, given levels of uncertainty. Now, It would only seem that the probability of the sun rising tommorow is 100% based on the past data of information; but the trend-lines of all past data doesn't necccessarily forecast the future. Why is that? The answer is because Cause & effect determines the outcome; not probability. How is the dice rolled? How does the sun come to rise; day in and day out? Until these questions can be answered with certainty, all we know about these events is probability, whereas Cause & effect is best described like the domino effect (a chain reaction without inturption). In theory, if the first domino falls; that cause determines the effect of all dominos falling. The difference with dice and the sun, is in rolling the dice, or in observing the past sun rises - that doesn't describe how the dice is rolled, or how much sunlight the sun still has to give us, as that giant fireball burns away in the Milky Way Galaxy.

@Human77 said in #39:

@Approximation
That is why the Scientists say they need more money
Oh money, the motive of all murders. Money has to change hands even when it's about studying randomness.

@Human77 said in #39: > @Approximation > That is why the Scientists say they need more money Oh money, the motive of all murders. Money has to change hands even when it's about studying randomness.

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