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Documentary : the brainwashing of my dad

@PensiveWhale said in #30:

Israel was somehow defending itself and shooting children and there whole family in a car

This is boring, your previous story about snipers last time was more interesting.

Interesting?! You want a name? Hind Rajab but I geuss Israel was doing her a favor by not kicking her out for the past 5 years of her life so well call it equal

@PensiveWhale said in #30: > > Israel was somehow defending itself and shooting children and there whole family in a car > > This is boring, your previous story about snipers last time was more interesting. Interesting?! You want a name? Hind Rajab but I geuss Israel was doing her a favor by not kicking her out for the past 5 years of her life so well call it equal

Ah, @water22 , so in #20 you express hope for yet another round of impotent impeachment?

I suppose that would be a mixed blessing. On the one hand, it would (yet again) fail to achieve anything other than to demonstrate the sad obsession that has seized so many Democrats in political life. But on the other, it would preoccupy and keep the Democrats from acting in any other, potentially more harmful, way.

Politics has become a palace of irony. Many Democrats scream about "affordability" while prices largely reflect the vast inflation that occurred during Biden's term, even as Trump's administration has seen the price of energy fall dramatically and has achieved good growth with moderate inflation. And even as the news (real news) recently reports that HUGE amounts of waste and abuse have occurred under some Democrat oversight.

But I suppose many don't see that news. Some sources don't like to dwell on any news that doesn't fit their political narrative. Which is why it's crucial, in order to avoid being unintentionally confused and herded, to learn from a much wider variety of sources than many commonly permit themselves to view.

Living in a bubble might be good for the immune-deficient. But I wouldn't recommend it for most.

Incidentally, @water22 , I am happy to see you involved, too. I especially value adversaries in debate who, like you, can remain polite and don't have to resort to personal attack. Or at least that is how it seems to me at the moment.

Polite, non-personal political adversaries are always as welcome as they seem to be in limited supply. They provide the antithesis that can help us all to a reasonable, middle-of-the-road synthesis. Neither Left nor Right is always "right," after all.

What's sad is the extent to which some would disagree with this post's penultimate sentence.

Ah, @water22 , so in #20 you express hope for yet another round of impotent impeachment? I suppose that would be a mixed blessing. On the one hand, it would (yet again) fail to achieve anything other than to demonstrate the sad obsession that has seized so many Democrats in political life. But on the other, it would preoccupy and keep the Democrats from acting in any other, potentially more harmful, way. Politics has become a palace of irony. Many Democrats scream about "affordability" while prices largely reflect the vast inflation that occurred during Biden's term, even as Trump's administration has seen the price of energy fall dramatically and has achieved good growth with moderate inflation. And even as the news (real news) recently reports that HUGE amounts of waste and abuse have occurred under some Democrat oversight. But I suppose many don't see that news. Some sources don't like to dwell on any news that doesn't fit their political narrative. Which is why it's crucial, in order to avoid being unintentionally confused and herded, to learn from a much wider variety of sources than many commonly permit themselves to view. Living in a bubble might be good for the immune-deficient. But I wouldn't recommend it for most. Incidentally, @water22 , I am happy to see you involved, too. I especially value adversaries in debate who, like you, can remain polite and don't have to resort to personal attack. Or at least that is how it seems to me at the moment. Polite, non-personal political adversaries are always as welcome as they seem to be in limited supply. They provide the antithesis that can help us all to a reasonable, middle-of-the-road synthesis. Neither Left nor Right is always "right," after all. What's sad is the extent to which some would disagree with this post's penultimate sentence.

@MatDaBat204 said in #31:

You want a name? Hind Rajab

Is this the story where the car with people didn't drive away from the Israeli forces (along the designated evacuation route), but instead drove straight toward them?

Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, I don't find this case much interesting.

@MatDaBat204 said in #31: > You want a name? Hind Rajab Is this the story where the car with people didn't drive away from the Israeli forces (along the designated evacuation route), but instead drove straight toward them? Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, I don't find this case much interesting.

@wowbagger

Like the man in the documentary ?

I was referencing some points in the forum.

Not a left-wing person by any means but sometimes...it's hard not to notice certain patterns.

@wowbagger >Like the man in the documentary ? I was referencing some points in the forum. Not a left-wing person by any means but sometimes...it's hard not to notice certain patterns.

@PensiveWhale said in #33:

You want a name? Hind Rajab

Is this the story where the car with people didn't drive away from the Israeli forces (along the designated evacuation route), but instead drove straight toward them?

Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, I don't find this case much interesting.

Okay first of all you are justifying the murder of a child and her whole family because they went to the wrong zone that doesnt really help the pro Israel case secondly not only did they kill her they waited hours to kill her firing over 350 bullets into a car with only a six year old girl left alive in it.

On a second point let’s just say you’re right and going the wrong direction is grounds to murder an entire family. Explain this image.jpeg
And the murder of two ambulances workers who she called.

@PensiveWhale said in #33: > > You want a name? Hind Rajab > > Is this the story where the car with people didn't drive away from the Israeli forces (along the designated evacuation route), but instead drove straight toward them? > > Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, I don't find this case much interesting. Okay first of all you are justifying the murder of a child and her whole family because they went to the wrong zone that doesnt really help the pro Israel case secondly not only did they kill her they waited hours to kill her firing over 350 bullets into a car with only a six year old girl left alive in it. On a second point let’s just say you’re right and going the wrong direction is grounds to murder an entire family. Explain this ![image.jpeg](https://image.lichess1.org/display?op=noop&path=ejjVVtLFi-JE.jpg&sig=c5eca53825cd6072283a7f6f663e4e5f34e5cd95) And the murder of two ambulances workers who she called.
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@MatDaBat204 said in #36:

you are justifying the murder of a child and her whole family because they went to the wrong zone

From the soldiers' point of view, this is not a car with a family and a child. It is an unidentified object approaching them, which may be carrying up to several tons of explosives.

Explain this

Hamas used ambulances until October 7, Hamas used ambulances during October 7, Hamas continues to use ambulances to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJseWEWeB2I

So yeah, even ambulances that are moving toward the troops without permission pose a real threat. As does absolutely any vehicle, without exception.

@MatDaBat204 said in #36: > you are justifying the murder of a child and her whole family because they went to the wrong zone From the soldiers' point of view, this is not a car with a family and a child. It is an unidentified object approaching them, which may be carrying up to several tons of explosives. > Explain this Hamas used ambulances until October 7, Hamas used ambulances during October 7, Hamas continues to use ambulances to this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJseWEWeB2I So yeah, even ambulances that are moving toward the troops without permission pose a real threat. As does **absolutely any vehicle**, without exception.

They waited 3 hours after murdering her family to fire over 350 bullets at a six year old so your argument kind of falls apart since they waited hours IMG_1603.jpeg she was not a terror threat and you are out here justifying this

They waited 3 hours after murdering her family to fire over 350 bullets at a six year old so your argument kind of falls apart since they waited hours ![IMG_1603.jpeg](https://image.lichess1.org/display?op=noop&path=r90epxpPFjNo.jpg&sig=73e028283e5edeaa1580eafec56cdbe0f33a47cd) she was not a terror threat and you are out here justifying this

@MatDaBat204 said in #39:

They waited 3 hours after murdering her family to fire over 350 bullets at a six year old

They waited 3 hours after shooting an unidentified object which posed a danger to shoot a pile of metal.

Are you saying that they knew there were civilians there and shot at them on purpose? Then provide a video of the incident. However, as usual, there is no video, only a tiny audio fragment that doesn't confirm your assumptions.

The girl isn't guilty for anything, it was simply that the driver decided to do something stupid that turned into mass suicide.

@MatDaBat204 said in #39: > They waited 3 hours after murdering her family to fire over 350 bullets at a six year old They waited 3 hours after shooting **an unidentified object which posed a danger** to shoot **a pile of metal**. Are you saying that they knew there were civilians there and shot at them on purpose? Then provide a video of the incident. However, as usual, there is no video, only a tiny audio fragment that doesn't confirm your assumptions. The girl isn't guilty for anything, it was simply that the driver decided to do something stupid that turned into mass suicide.