@glbert said in #20:
> because you are claiming that there are obvious and easy to fix false positives in lichess cheat detected cases, which is (1) false and (2) contributes to the general paranoia about cheat detection, which i hate.
I dont recall ever mentioning anything about a flawed cheat detection, I simply stated that it might be an accident from the user's perspective. I believe you are being a bit too biased on this matter; I repeatedly mentioned that I am discussing hypothetically without having any sort of superior knowledge or concrete evidence, and you're telling me I'm "claiming" false facts and causing paranoia? I never even complained about anything, just said that it is possible to accidentally trigger the anti-cheat without ill intent if you leave an open tab of your previous game with the analysis on, or just a random analysis tab in general, which can happen if you don't pay attention to it. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. Hope I clarified my intents.
@Dragon_Emperor_9774 said in #21:
> just said that it is possible to accidentally trigger the anti-cheat without ill intent if you leave an open tab of your previous game with the analysis on, or just a random analysis tab in general, which can happen if you don't pay attention to it. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. Hope I clarified my intents.
yes, but you are completely wrong about this. it is not possible to trigger it with the analysis of your previous game. it is also not possible to trigger it with just a random analysis tab. you have also made the very concrete claim that it is possible to trigger it on move 2-3 in a line that you know well, also untrue.
> and you're telling me I'm "claiming" false facts and causing paranoia?
yes, that is exactly what i am telling you. you know close to zero about how "cheat detected" works and even admit that, but for some reason you're here arguing about how it's possible to trigger it without ill-intent in concrete scenarios.
@glbert said in #22:
> yes, but you are completely wrong about this. it is not possible to trigger it with the analysis of your previous game. it is also not possible to trigger it with just a random analysis tab. you have also made the very concrete claim that it is possible to trigger it on move 2-3 in a line that you know well, also untrue.
Well since you are so well informed, and I happen to be a developer too, would you mind DMing or pointing to the exact code?
I will be glad to take a look for myself, and I'd prefer not to manually look for it since you already know where it is.
Oh, and ill try to check the parameters for the advanced search queries, to see if I can somehow isolate "Cheat Detected" and find my game. Unless ofc they removed it as a false positive, which is always a possibility, since it was one.
I was not planning to go this deep, but since you are right about the fact that I "know close to zero", I'll just change that real quick.
So, after almost 4 hours of work, I found the only game in my account that ends with "Cheat Detected", which I cannot show here because it was the other person that had been flagged and not me (shows how little I remember about it), so it would be "public shaming". What I can say tho, is that it was 8 moves long so yeah I was completely wrong about saying it was like 2-3 moves.
I made a thread about how difficult it was to find the game, mainly so that you may laugh at my failed attempts...
Oh, and if anyone has further disagreements / doesnt believe me or anything, you can just follow the steps I wrote in the other thread to check it out for yourselves:
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/searching-for-all-games-that-ended-with-cheat-detected
@glbert so, I took a look for myself after all ;) thanks for your help
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