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I filed https://github.com/lichess-org/lila/issues/16911 although I personally am not an advocate of "ragesit" sorts of rules since they can easily get subjective.

sheckley666

#32

@Fittrader said in #30:

An automatic resignation for prolonged inactivity—after a clear warning—would not be a deviation from standard chess rules but rather an adaptation for the online setting.
To say it quite clearly: I do not want to deal with two timers in my games. Plus, I do not want to be disturbed by warnings while I am thinking.

@Fittrader said in #30: > An automatic resignation for prolonged inactivity—after a clear warning—would not be a deviation from standard chess rules but rather an adaptation for the online setting. To say it quite clearly: I do not want to deal with two timers in my games. Plus, I do not want to be disturbed by warnings while I am thinking.

PurpleInferno edited

#33

As long as the game tab remains in focus, I think the site should assume the player is just thinking. But if you've been "thinking" for x minutes while doing other things with your device without ever going back to the game, then...(Okay, maybe you have two monitors and the game is visible on your second monitor or something. Or you're trying to practice your blindfold chess. But the two most likely explanations are that you didn't notice it's your turn, or you're deliberately ignoring the game, and a warning would be useful in both cases).

Patrizsche

#34

In this game you let your time run out for 32 minutes and 33 seconds instead of resigning (you lost the game on time):

https://lichess.org/nSCtJFpw#98

In this game you let your time run out for 32 minutes and 33 seconds instead of resigning (you lost the game on time): https://lichess.org/nSCtJFpw#98

Fittrader

#35

@PurpleInferno That’s a fair consideration, and I agree that distinguishing between deep thinking and deliberate stalling is tricky. However, when a player is unresponsive for an extended period—especially in a completely lost position—there should be a safeguard in place. A warning system before automatic resignation would align with OTB standards, where an arbiter wouldn’t allow indefinite stalling

Toadofsky

#36

The only way I can imagine to complement/extend existing detection policies could be that suggested in my GitHub issue (detecting slow moves followed soon thereafter by resignation). Sure, some false positives will occur, but the crowds demand blood...

Fittrader

#37

@Patrizsche
I won’t make excuses—I acknowledge that in that game, I let my time run out instead of resigning. I accept the penalty for that instance of unfair play. However, I don’t make a habit of it, nor was it intentional. That said, even in my case, if an automatic resignation system with warnings had been in place, it would have removed me from the game and prevented my opponent from being forced to wait. This is exactly why such a system would be beneficial—to ensure fairness for all players, regardless of intent.

@Patrizsche I won’t make excuses—I acknowledge that in that game, I let my time run out instead of resigning. I accept the penalty for that instance of unfair play. However, I don’t make a habit of it, nor was it intentional. That said, even in my case, if an automatic resignation system with warnings had been in place, it would have removed me from the game and prevented my opponent from being forced to wait. This is exactly why such a system would be beneficial—to ensure fairness for all players, regardless of intent.

lonelypeanut

#38

@sheckley666 said in #32:

To say it quite clearly: I do not want to deal with two timers in my games. Plus, I do not want to be disturbed by warnings while I am thinking.

Yeah that sounds annoying as all hell... a bad solution could definitely be worse than waiting, normally in a winning position.

I usually write on the chat to move people to keep playing if this happens but they usually don't budge.

@sheckley666 said in #32: > To say it quite clearly: I do not want to deal with two timers in my games. Plus, I do not want to be disturbed by warnings while I am thinking. Yeah that sounds annoying as all hell... a bad solution could definitely be worse than waiting, normally in a winning position. I usually write on the chat to move people to keep playing if this happens but they usually don't budge.

azuaga

#39

You can search the forum for open players interested in playing long games. I think it's less likely that they'll waste time that way. There are also 30+30, 45+45, and 90+30 leagues that some members organize and it's one game a week. Or you can play against stockfish.

forsoothplays

#40

Some of us are still waiting to hear about this legendary anecdote of an arbiter forcing a player to resign after intentionally stalling, whispered about in only the darkest and most arcane corners of the Lichess forums...