Disabling conditional premoves on Correspondence

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I think you're confusing conditional premoves and analysis board.

To me correspondence chess is about trying to create the best game that you can, and going through the variations on an analysis board (whether a real or a virtual one) is an essential part of it, and also writing down those variations. But I understand the desire to play correspondence chess with no other tool than your own brain, and I made a similar suggestion some time ago to have a whole set of options of what we allow or not in a correspondence game when we create it (analysis board, opening databases, books, engines, tablebases, help from other players...).

But this has nothing to do with conditional premoves. Conditional premoves is just a feature on Lichess analysis board that allow to premove variations. It only mean that we don't recalculate the variations if they show up on the board. Therefore it seems to me that using conditional premoves increase the risk of error. The only advantage that you can get from it is a time advantage, but that is not very relevant.

Actually I think Lichess should go further and allow us to save variations without premoving them, and also add symbols and comments to them.

But maybe I didn't understand your post.

By definition, correspondence chess is not meant to be played in real time, and it allows (here on lichess and on any other service, including good all fashioned snail mail play) analysis by the players with a board, books, whatnot and the use of conditional moves, which are simply a tool to speed up the pace.

If you choose to play it like an over the board game, it is your prerogative, but it is you that are giving yourself a disadvantage, not the features giving your opponents an advantage, big difference.

If you don want to use those, fine, but you cannot ask to inhibit features to your opponents that are expected in the choosen format only because "correspondence" has a different meaning to you

LarsenB - There's not as much consensus on what the rules of correspondence chess should be as you make out, as the below threads demonstrate.

And while you can look at conditional premoves as a tool to speed up the pace, you can also look at them as giving an advantage by allowing you to test and abandon lines by seeing them develop on the board rather than in your head.

The rules are clear, however, that you can ask Lichess whatever you want, for whatever reasons you want (and have your suggestion ignored or adopted for whatever reason Lichess wants).

https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/rules-applied-on-lichess#1

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/correspondence-chess-3

https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/disabling-conditional-premoves-on-correspondence?page=1

I'm sorry, but no... correspondence chess has been out for over 150 years at least, and that's the way it is.

There might not be consensus here in the forum but the way it is meant to be played is not "in your head", it exist specifically to allow for the most in-depth analysis possible, including moving the pieces on the board and othet mean; it's completely separated from real time chess for a reason.

In absolutely NO WAY conditional moves will give an advantage to any player, they are simply there so you can input your choosen move in advance, so you don't have to worry about being online/available when the expected answer comes, given that the game is played asynchronously...

So, I'll rephase: you can ask but you cannot expect to have a feature, that is an integral part of the specific discipline, removed from other players just because you choose to approach the game as a "simulated" over the board match... once again, if you want to give yourself an extra challenge by doing that, you are perfectly good to go, but that does not mean your opponents are given an advantage

Look, I've seen this conversation for ages... just to name one, go have a look on Gameknot.com forums; it was introduced probably 10 years ago, there were topics then, there are still topics now, and needless to say the function is still there
You know what they did there?! they introduced the option to "Conceal conditional moves" on your part, so that the system would not relay the move immediately and you wouldn't be able to know if the opponent made a conditional or manual move... but, of course this is only on your end, because the other player would still retain the option intact, as it should be; it was only made so that people would find "piece of mind" toward a perfectly legitimate feature

It's an interesting topic, Larsen, though I see you don't even play correspondence on Lichess, so I'm not sure why it riles you.

At the end of the day, the rules of any particular form of chess, or competition or website, are what they are (and were what they were when, according to chess.com, Emperor Nicephorus and the Caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid apparently played correspondence chess in the 9th century).

You can see that there's more than one view on this, so it's not black and white and set in stone. Even the International Correspondence Chess Federation rules permits conditional premoves by post, but for Server games they "are optional at the discretion of the Tournament Organiser".

If you are playing a completely forced line, I can see that premoves just save time rather than giving an advantage. But if you're not, well I won't bother repeating my views, and I of course don't ask and definitely don't expect you to agree.