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Computer Errors / Mouse Slips

Would it be possible to give everyone a free "computer error" take-back option? Or institute that as a possible option for games? I'd put it on every time.

I keep having simple mouse slips (actually, touchpad slips) in my game, or accidental typos when entering a move. Then my opponents usually refuse to give a single takeback. Nice etiquette, right? In these instances, I submit a takeback request immediately, before they've even moved. Which, one would think, suggests that in fact I did slip up, and am not merely regretting some failure to notice my opponent's options.

It seems there are way too many players who are happy with a fictitious victory, rather than a genuine match, with the actual moves...
Just use the option where you need to confirm a move before it goes through. People aren't obligated to let you fix your blunders or accept your takebacks. You should consider things and move more carefully. It isn't a fictitious victory when you mess up and blunder. We all make mistakes in games and screw up all the time.
What a baby.

Blunders are part of the game and mouse slips are 100% your fault. Your opponents have no obligation to let you correct your mistakes, and neither does lichess.
Guys-- I think you misunderstand.

It's not your fault when you're inputting THE ACTUAL MOVE your ACTUAL BRAIN came up with, and not having technology betray you.

Think about an OTB game. Would you insist an opponent moved his Rook if they simply knocked the piece accidentally with their hand?? Hardly.

I'm not talking about legitimate mistakes.
Technology isn't betraying you. You're using a chess site, not battling Skynet. There is an option to confirm a move before it is fully submitted. You can use that if you are so clumsy that you are simply unable to hit the proper squares. I have it enabled on my games for that reason. And because I find it helps to see the move and consider it before I move. That should help you enough. If you are asking for more than that, it is clear your issue isn't just bad moves, but regretting a move you made, seeing what its consequences are, and expecting the option to have it instantly taken back and have the computer tell you "hey you screwed up". No. Learn from your mistakes and get better at the game.
It matters not one jot whether you "intended" to do a mouseslip or not. You put the piece there, and nobody else. Your opponent should not have to clean up after your carelessness. This has nothing to do with etiquette.

In an OTB, you can't drop a piece in the wrong square and demand a takeback. They'll kick you out of the tournament, and rightfully so.
Did think about your thought before posting? What is the difference between a mouse slip and blunder?

Tell me how could that work, because rationally it means that every opponent has a free take-back and can undo for free one blunder per game. Just lol

That's not a kitchen table, but lichess man.
Your failure to catch my point is pretty astounding.

I'm not saying you DECIDED on a move, and then later regretted it. I'm saying, it's a move you never intended, and was only played because of a pure accident. Nobody's perfect, therefore these accidents are going to happen-- sticking to typos / mouse slip moves pretty much ruins the game, because it was not the move that the human player actually wished to make.

Player's brain: Bb4!

Player's mouse: Bc5!

You are all arguing that we should choose the mouse, over the human intention. Which is absolute nonsense. Are the machines playing the game, or are we?
As at least one other user has stated, there is no way to distinguish between mouse slips and plain old blunders. I'm really not interested in playing games where everyone gets one free takeback and I have to trust that my opponent won't use it to undo a blunder.

Other users have already pointed you to an existing solution. If you find you are often putting pieces on the wrong square, use the move confirmation option.
Yes, I've resolved to do that. I didn't realize move confirmation was an option for more than just Correspondence games. My bad.

However, refusing to give a takeback is still bad etiquette. I see Esserman and other Masters giving one takeback per game in rated online play. Especially if the request is made BEFORE any follow-on moves / consequences, which strongly suggests that it was in fact just a slip. (Just think: you know the difference between technical glitches and conscious decisions. That's all I was getting at.)

Also, as Chess lovers, you ought to want the real moves. Human choices, not happenstance. Usually when this happened I'd just beg to know their response to my actual move... instead they ended as mysteries. A lost opportunity, all because of an easily reverse-able accident. It's just that people attach their egos, or invest a lot of emotional currency in their numerical rating.

Also also, if you're confident in your game, why not let people have a mistake back? Play on, keep things interesting. That's my feeling, anyway. People who don't allow one (1) takeback in a game must be scared of something.

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