Complaint: Disappointment with moderators in forums

It's simple. Do Lichess want to join the select club of shitholes of internet like 4ch@n and X ?

@bfchessguy said in #41:

It's simple. Do Lichess want to join the select club of shitholes of internet like 4ch@n and X ?
Easy now.
You are making an unfair comparison.

I too think Lichess needs to revisit/restructure/rethink how they moderate the forums.
But this comparison is not fair towards Lichess and their team of moderators.

@NaturalBornTraveller said in #42:

Easy now.
You are making an unfair comparison.

I too think Lichess needs to revisit/restructure/rethink how they moderate the forums.
But this comparison is not fair towards Lichess and their team of moderators.

My point is we need to avoid that slippery slope, and lately the Off Topic Section is not looking good to say the least. Enforcing ToS would be a good start to avoid that.

@bfchessguy said in #43:

My point is we need to avoid that slippery slope, and lately the Off Topic Section is not looking good to say the least. Enforcing ToS would be a good start to avoid that.
Lately??
It always had some issues.
Honestly, from my perspective, it's been a lot worse in the past.
It's not good currently. But it is not the worst it has been.

@NaturalBornTraveller said in #44:

Lately??
It always had some issues.
Honestly, from my perspective, it's been a lot worse in the past.
It's not good currently. But it is not the worst it has been.

For me it's the worse I have seen since I joined.

@bfchessguy said in #43:

My point is we need to avoid that slippery slope, and lately the Off Topic Section is not looking good to say the least. Enforcing ToS would be a good start to avoid that.

the Tos but also the control of the topics and strict decisions regarding what is possible to post and what is not.

the interface must be changed, the polite label must appear everywhere, or else memos to remind people to be nice to each other. if there were subthreads it would be much easier to control

@CSKA_Moscou said in #46:

the interface must be changed, the polite label must appear everywhere, or else memos to remind people to be nice to each other.

It should not be necessary to remind people to be nice.
And neither Lichess nor it's moderators, can enforce someone to behave nice. They can only regulate the forums, perhaps delete a comment, or in worst case scenario, sanction a user for a breach of the ToS.

if there were subthreads it would be much easier to control
Off-topic is the sub thread. It's there to prevent spam on the other chess/feedback related forums.

@NaturalBornTraveller said in #47:

It should not be necessary to remind people to be nice.
And neither Lichess nor it's moderators, can enforce someone to behave nice. They can only regulate the forums, perhaps delete a comment, or in worst case scenario, sanction a user for a breach of the ToS.

some video games do it, I don't have any figures on hand to know if it's more positive or if it's on the contrary a bad idea. I don't use social networks very much, so I'm not very aware of the usefulness of these things

Off-topic is the sub thread. It's there to prevent spam on the other chess/feedback related forums.

when I was talking about sub-threads of the forum, it was to make categories inside off-topic like: art, food, sport, nature, gaming, daily life... as these would be specific subjects, it There would be better control possible and less spam and toxicity.

@NaturalBornTraveller said in #47:

It should not be necessary to remind people to be nice.

Why should it be necessary to be useful. Necessary to achieve what. Common sense dependent discussions on a participant pool from the internet are always slippery. I think to compensate for flame war potential inherent to the incomplete communication medium, indeed redundancy of what keeps the temperature globally manageable would help (that).

I don't think the problem is that people don't know how to behave better, it is about watching one self doing things while things get hot. So, accepting we are not fully controlling our behavior, and as in chess theories of learning are beginning (clumsily) to acknowledge the subconscious and intuition and peripheral "vision" and peripheral thoughts etc, we could do it in text communication theories (here, talking about moderation needs at theoretical level).

The notion of Signal-to-noise ratio might be only next in chess culture discovery of learning anything. But in text communicatoin , signal to noise ratio is already a thing. No harm with reminders. I could be "in watermark" even.

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/consistent-1600s-ratings-has-now-disappeared threads like these should be closed fast. Just like threads by cheaters.