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The chess960 rating list in its current form is ridiculous. No difference is made between ultrabullet, bullet, blitz, rapid and classical games. Everything goes to a single rating list and weighs equally. It makes no sense at all.

You see the very top players on the list gaining their incredibly high ratings by playing loads of ultrabullet, and this fact simply discourages you from playing chess960 here.

Please split the rating list at least into 2 different categories, such as "bullet & ultrabullet" and "blitz & slower". At least the 1/4+0, 1/2+0 and 1+0 games (where chess skills are of less significance than mouse handling skills) must be separated from the rest.

Note that chess960 (or freestyle chess) is not just a chess-based fun variant such as atomic or "three checks". Rather, it's the extended version of the standard chess, therefore its rating system deserves much more respect than it currently has. (If you don't agree with an ordinary former player like myself, then you can ask Magnus Carlsen, Levon Aronian or Garry Kasparov.)

The chess960 rating list in its current form is ridiculous. No difference is made between ultrabullet, bullet, blitz, rapid and classical games. Everything goes to a single rating list and weighs equally. It makes no sense at all. You see the very top players on the list gaining their incredibly high ratings by playing loads of ultrabullet, and this fact simply discourages you from playing chess960 here. Please split the rating list at least into 2 different categories, such as "bullet & ultrabullet" and "blitz & slower". At least the 1/4+0, 1/2+0 and 1+0 games (where chess skills are of less significance than mouse handling skills) must be separated from the rest. Note that chess960 (or freestyle chess) is not just a chess-based fun variant such as atomic or "three checks". Rather, it's the extended version of the standard chess, therefore its rating system deserves much more respect than it currently has. (If you don't agree with an ordinary former player like myself, then you can ask Magnus Carlsen, Levon Aronian or Garry Kasparov.)

So?

Ultra can't be played rated for variants. I think player pools are too small in all variants to differ between TCS unfortunately, cause I agree with the problem.

yojoey

#5

I agree with @Former_Player . I try to follow high rated Chess 960 and Crazyhouse players to learn from their games. I do not get as much educational value out of reviewing bullet and ultra-bullet games, than I do blitz and rapid. The current rating list makes it very difficult for me to find players to follow.

bobbi960

#6

How about we still don't have official 960 FIDE Rating? I wrote to FIDE this summer about this topic. No reply...

GM Former_Player

#7

@Iubar said in #4:

Ultra can't be played rated for variants.

Absolutely.

@Iubar said in #4: > Ultra can't be played rated for variants. Absolutely.

Iubar

#8

@Former_Player said in #7:

Absolutely.

I meant it currently already is not possible to play lower TCS than 1/2 rated in variants. It was changed years ago to make variants leaderboards a bit better.

@Former_Player said in #7: > Absolutely. I meant it currently already is not possible to play lower TCS than 1/2 rated in variants. It was changed years ago to make variants leaderboards a bit better.

GM Former_Player

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#9

@bobbi960 said in #6:

How about we still don't have official 960 FIDE Rating? I wrote to FIDE this summer about this topic. No reply...

Frankly, I don't believe in FIDE supporting 960 and implementing the ratings, at least with the current people in charge. And they are not going to leave any time soon.
My hope is for Buettner+Magnus. The Freestyle Chess Grand Slam scheduled for 2025 can become the turning point (if everything goes as planned which I'm not 100% sure about).
In addition, I think we the chess960 fans need a separate portal, after all. Chess960 news, games, analyses, live commentary, discussions, playing area, guides for beginners and club players, etc. - exclusively about 960. On the orthodox chess websites, we're condemned to begging and hiding in the backyard for years.

@bobbi960 said in #6: > How about we still don't have official 960 FIDE Rating? I wrote to FIDE this summer about this topic. No reply... Frankly, I don't believe in FIDE supporting 960 and implementing the ratings, at least with the current people in charge. And they are not going to leave any time soon. My hope is for Buettner+Magnus. The Freestyle Chess Grand Slam scheduled for 2025 can become the turning point (if everything goes as planned which I'm not 100% sure about). In addition, I think we the chess960 fans need a separate portal, after all. Chess960 news, games, analyses, live commentary, discussions, playing area, guides for beginners and club players, etc. - exclusively about 960. On the orthodox chess websites, we're condemned to begging and hiding in the backyard for years.

bobbi960

#10

@Former_Player said in #9:

Frankly, I don't believe in FIDE supporting 960 and implementing the ratings, at least with the current people in charge. And they are not going to leave any time soon.
My hope is for Buettner+Magnus. The Freestyle Chess Grand Slam scheduled for 2025 can become the turning point (if everything goes as planned which I'm 100% sure about).
In addition, I think we the chess960 fans need an exclusive portal, after all. Chess960 news, games, analyses, live commentary, discussions, playing area, guides for beginners and club players, etc. On the orthodox chess websites, we're condemned to begging and hiding in the backyard for years.

Well, if FIDE gonna continue to ignore 960, then i guess we will need to have a separate federation for our beloved game.

@Former_Player said in #9: > Frankly, I don't believe in FIDE supporting 960 and implementing the ratings, at least with the current people in charge. And they are not going to leave any time soon. > My hope is for Buettner+Magnus. The Freestyle Chess Grand Slam scheduled for 2025 can become the turning point (if everything goes as planned which I'm 100% sure about). > In addition, I think we the chess960 fans need an exclusive portal, after all. Chess960 news, games, analyses, live commentary, discussions, playing area, guides for beginners and club players, etc. On the orthodox chess websites, we're condemned to begging and hiding in the backyard for years. Well, if FIDE gonna continue to ignore 960, then i guess we will need to have a separate federation for our beloved game.