Why lichess is so generous with blunder!

Asem_2214

I rarely play lichess, I usually analyze my games with it. I have noticed that lichess is just being very generous with giving blunders, like I get sometimes 10 blunders a game. Usually from 4-7 even in the perfectly played games (950 elo in chesscom though).
I mean it becomes really useless and meaningless when you see this number of blunders, lichess must be more tolerant. Chesscom gives a reasonable number of blunders, which many times as 950 elo rated are zero blunders. Which honestly makes sense when you don't give your opponent a clear advantage.
Also when my opponent blunder, and I didn't exploit his mistake very well it must be called A MISS. Not another blunder.

I rarely play lichess, I usually analyze my games with it. I have noticed that lichess is just being very generous with giving blunders, like I get sometimes 10 blunders a game. Usually from 4-7 even in the perfectly played games (950 elo in chesscom though). I mean it becomes really useless and meaningless when you see this number of blunders, lichess must be more tolerant. Chesscom gives a reasonable number of blunders, which many times as 950 elo rated are zero blunders. Which honestly makes sense when you don't give your opponent a clear advantage. Also when my opponent blunder, and I didn't exploit his mistake very well it must be called A MISS. Not another blunder.

Maestro230

Sorry to be blunt like that but Lichess is just honest about your games.

NM MrPushwood

embrace the generosity!

mrbasso

Here a simple example: In the following game 30...Bxc4 is not a blunder. The line from Stockfish beginning with 30...Qe7 is not better at all since white will end up with a technical winning endgame. White will sooner or later get 2 connected past pawns and a player like Bacrot wins this endgame easily in his sleep.

28...Qb7 OTOH is a blunder, not a mere mistake. It's the loosing move of the game since black has an almost equal position prior to this bad move and after 29.Qe3 he suddenly is lost.

https://lichess.org/broadcast/fide-grand-swiss-2023/round-6/JQDlDOeu

Computer generated game commentary is completely meaningless. The computer can not take into account how difficult a certain move is to find for humans nor does he take into account how difficult it is for humans to win a certain position. Here a simple example: In the following game 30...Bxc4 is not a blunder. The line from Stockfish beginning with 30...Qe7 is not better at all since white will end up with a technical winning endgame. White will sooner or later get 2 connected past pawns and a player like Bacrot wins this endgame easily in his sleep. 28...Qb7 OTOH is a blunder, not a mere mistake. It's the loosing move of the game since black has an almost equal position prior to this bad move and after 29.Qe3 he suddenly is lost. https://lichess.org/broadcast/fide-grand-swiss-2023/round-6/JQDlDOeu

Asem_2214

@Maestro230 said in #2:

Sorry to be blunt like that but Lichess is just honest about your games.
Yes, but when a newbie player analyze his games and find like 9+ blunders he will not get a benefit from his analyze. Instead of giving him the main blunders like a hanged-out piece or a discovery attack, lichess is giving blunders for vague reasons. At least it must be intelligent enough to know if the game is by newbies or GMs.@mrbasso said in #4:

Computer generated game commentary is completely meaningless. The computer can not take into account how difficult a certain move is to find for humans nor does he take into account how difficult it is for humans to win a certain position.
But the other website does give more reasonable commentary and most of the time it's correct and beneficial.

@Maestro230 said in #2: > Sorry to be blunt like that but Lichess is just honest about your games. Yes, but when a newbie player analyze his games and find like 9+ blunders he will not get a benefit from his analyze. Instead of giving him the main blunders like a hanged-out piece or a discovery attack, lichess is giving blunders for vague reasons. At least it must be intelligent enough to know if the game is by newbies or GMs.@mrbasso said in #4: > Computer generated game commentary is completely meaningless. The computer can not take into account how difficult a certain move is to find for humans nor does he take into account how difficult it is for humans to win a certain position. But the other website does give more reasonable commentary and most of the time it's correct and beneficial.

nadjarostowa

Any example? I mean you don't need computer analysis to see that you just blundered a piece...

If you want to learn from your mistakes, I'd say the more mistakes you are shown, the better.

Any example? I mean you don't need computer analysis to see that you just blundered a piece... If you want to learn from your mistakes, I'd say the more mistakes you are shown, the better.

chess179179

chess com just sugar coats the truth and only gives blunders for lost material

AsDaGo

@Asem_2214 said in #5:

But the other website does give more reasonable commentary and most of the time it's correct and beneficial.

*designed to make you feel good so you stay at their site.

@Asem_2214 said in #5: > But the other website does give more reasonable commentary and most of the time it's correct and beneficial. *designed to make you feel good so you stay at their site.

CSKA_Moscou

why the green site is so generous with Kramnik and Niemann ? why always them?

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