My rapid rating in chess.com was 810 before I rage quit. My rapid rating in lichess is 1497...
I think there is a shift in this pattern when you start getting into higher rating ranges. Chess.com attracts a lot of tournament players and has a partnership with USCF, so much of the time, people in the 1700-2000 range put up incredible fights compared to people I have faced with those ratings here. Since they do not use classical to describe games as tournament chess is often 90 minutes for the first 40 moves and then 30+30 for the rest of the game (or longer), I will compare my rapid rating there to my classical (or even rapid rating since it is not so far off) rating here. On Chess.com, my rapid rating is in the 2300s, but go look at their leaderboard and see how many GMs and IMs occupy the first three pages and you will see the level of competition you have to deal with to gain rating at that level.
@dooeyDecimal Any chance of a lesson from you. I'm 1400 as you know from my first post.
For my rating range (lichess 1500-1800) i'd say that chess.com is harder (i have there 1300-1600). I believe that there are more low rated in chess.com and higher rated too, so the rating curve is well different. And rating only place yourself in the group in you are playing at. I'm about 1350 FIDE and never ever would have there the ratings i have in lichess, just because the players in FIDE tournaments are in average well better, so my ratings get lower. I'd say that chess.com is closer to FIDE, but all in all, this is a way to place you inside a group of players. If a group is stronger you are down the ladder, otherwise you are upper.
dude chess.com keeps creating predatory practices (like paid contracts) to make sure that titled players don't get to play on the best site ever, lichess.org. this makes chess.com look better, because they know that their site is far inferior to lichess. lichess is truly among the greatest sites of all time. while chess.com exists to milk you out of your money, lichess exists so you can play chess. just get rid of chess.com and instead play on lichess.org.
@farmersrice I have a running paid diamond plan there, and i am playing here... after 7-8 months there, i created again an account here, and here am i. Subscribe all you said.
@farmersrice Lichess.org is not the best chess website, its the only chess website :)
@qetuouk i'm not much of a teacher but id play a game every now and then and go over it with ya if you wanted.. just send a pm and i'll let ya know
@farmersrice for sure, chess.com is an inferior experience compared to Lichess, and yes, they do have paid contracts and so on. But we can change that, by exclusively donating to Lichess, and in time, Lichess will be able to afford paying more professional chess players to play here. The only reason chess.com has a higher Alexa ranking than Lichess.org is because of their simpler domain, which is also why they have far more n00bs over there, which is why I'm in the 80.9% percentile in 10 minutes over there, while here I'm in the 49.3% percentile in the same time control, as of right now. Again, that's because they really have far more n00bs over at chess.com, doesn't matter that they have more pros, because the 2000+ rated players are always going to be a tiny minority anyway, so they don't affect the statistics all that much, but a much larger sample of players will put average or slightly below average players here, in a much higher percentile over at chess.com, and that's not because the rating systems differ (both use Glicko2), but again, because of a larger sample of players. The day Lichess.org really becomes mainstream and we have tens of millions of regular players here, we're going to see the same percentile statistics over here as we're seeing at chess.com right now.
Anyway, as I said earlier, Lichess.org is really a far superior experience (free and open source software more often than not results in a superior software experience, due to the nature of FOSS development), and that's also why Lichess has fewer but on average actually better players, because smarter people recognize better software and dumb people don't even know what the hell open source is and why we should be using it, lol.
Anyway keep up the good work everyone, and please start donating to @thibault if you aren't already, so that we can make Lichess.org the future of chess and the number one chess site on the internetz!
Intuitively, we would think that no society would ever pay $100 a month for an internet service who:
- Stole everything they have from a free service, a service whose mission statement explicitly states that they aspire to provide the best service to everyone, for free, forever.
- Produce an inferior internet speed compared to that of the free service.
- Are actively trying to corner the market to where:
i) Nobody else can ever compete with them.
ii) Nobody else will know that better alternatives exist.
...but we would be wrong, ill-informed, and incapable of learning from history.
"Planned Obsolescence."
I've said it over and over and over again, if the chess world understood what they were looking at, if they understood Lichess' mission statement, and Lichess' dedication to supply the very best platform that the chess world could ever hope for...chesscom would not have a chance to compete.
The chess world would migrate to Lichess; and then, lacking site-hits, much less subscription fees, chesscom would have to cease their contracts, and the GMs would evacuate that shell of a corpse of a pathetic site, once and for all.
If the chess world understood the politics of the situation, they wouldn't be caught dead frequenting that site.
Once you know that Lichess exists, you have absolute NO excuse.
I understand that not everyone has tracked all of the chess sites since the late 90s.
I understand that many people only learned chess yesterday and have no idea about the politics or the history.
I understand that chesscom preys on newcomers and has invested heavily in feigning the appearance of being "the gold standard", but it never has been and never will be.
First was ICC, then was Lichess. That's the end of that discussion. Those are the only 2 gold-standard sites that have ever existed online.
Don't tell me about that non-functional piece of crap chesscom site from the mid-2000s. It's always been a "just enough" resource, and ultimately deserves the same fate as ICC and for that exact same reason. Both of them started rolling in the bucks, both of them failed to continue to improve as fast and as best as possible. Neither of them have ever asked, "What's the MOST that we can do for the chess world?" No. It's Lichess.org who has been the only one to ask and answer that question to a more than satisfactory degree.
Lichess is literally the first and only site that's set out with the obvious expressed purpose of supplying the chessworld not only a free resource that everyone can access, but one that is also the very best of the best.
Lichess has spared no expense when it comes to attention to detail in all areas.
From the programming, to the moderating, to the anti-cheat, to the policy evolution/adjustments, to the site-layout, to the general efficiency; none of it is by accident.
All of it was handcrafted to best suit the needs of the average chess player.
When someone says, "Hey guys, I think I've got a chess platform here that you all might be interested in. What do you think? Let me know about improvements, the sky is the limit. It's the very BEST that I could do for you. And it will always be free. Just let me know what you think," the chess world is supposed to have good sense enough to say, "Hey wow! That site is deadly man! I guess that I know where I'm hanging my hat from now on. Nice! Thanks a lot Lichess!"
We're supposed to know a good thing when we see it.
We're supposed to know to support a good thing that works in our interest.
So long as Lichess.org exists, chesscom will always be an insult to the intelligence of the chess world. Full stop.
No, I don't want their crappy "just enough" site.
No, I don't want their failed attempt at stealing and rebaking everything that works so well for Lichess.
No, I don't want their attempt to monopolize and force people to pay for the privilege of having access to chess resources.
No, I don't appreciate or respect their attempt to feign legitimacy by exploiting the perception of titled GMs and having them sign whatever kinds of contracts and NDAs.
No, I don't appreciate them trying to take attention from Lichess and delay or otherwise impede upon Lichess.org's future of being the only future of online internet chess.
Chesscom is a pseudo version of Lichess.org.
Chesscom is Danny Devito in "Twins".
Chesscom is a parasite.
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Chesscom is the reason that your fridge, your car, your phone, your kettle, your stove don't last more than a year past the warranty date; but also not without the complicit cooperation of the consumers that go along with this program and allow corporate predators to function in the first place.
At least when our parents went shopping, they didn't have the internet to inform themselves of viable alternatives that were twice as cheap and built to last. We can forgive them for being suckers to a company, like chesscom, who invested everything in their marketing, (from their name, to paying famous people to say their name), and feeling like they had no other option.
But as for us in the information age? As for us today? No way.
As was stated above, "Once you know that Lichess exists, you have no excuse."
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You know, of the "millions of members" that chesscom has, ALL of them laugh at the idiots calling their phones and telling them about viruses on their computer...
...all of them laugh even harder at the idiots who actually give these scam-artists remote access...
...but at the very same time...
...there they are, frequenting chesscom.
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