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In my eyes, horde is a much simpler game to calculate than chess.
You have one side with normal pieces and the other side with a bunch of pieces that all have the same function.
So, why hasn't anyone solved it yet?
The closest I could find to a solution was a person named (@)Genesis_0f_the_Omega, who claimed to have solved horde chess, but is marked as a cheater.
https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/i-solved-horde-chess--i-bet-100-you-cant-beat-me-in-horde?page=1

In my eyes, horde is a much simpler game to calculate than chess. You have one side with normal pieces and the other side with a bunch of pieces that all have the same function. So, why hasn't anyone solved it yet? The closest I could find to a solution was a person named (@)Genesis_0f_the_Omega, who claimed to have solved horde chess, but is marked as a cheater. https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/i-solved-horde-chess--i-bet-100-you-cant-beat-me-in-horde?page=1

Abigail-III

In Go, both players have a bunch of pieces which all have the same function. And they don't even move!

Yet, Go hasn't been solved, neither strongly, weakly, nor ultra weakly.

Two things are relevant. First, the number of different pieces doesn't matter that much for the complexity of the game. The number of options (moves) a player has does. And while a pawn doesn't have that many moves, there are a lot of pawns on the board! Not to mention that a lot of pawns means a lot of possible promotions, and hence, a lot of possible moves. Second, it's horde. Not chess. Chess is a well known game, and will attract a lot of people willing to spend resources (brain and computer power) to "solve chess". Horde is, well horde. A marginal game. It attracts far less people willing to solve it.

But, hey, if you think horde is so much simpler than chess, why don't you solve it?

In Go, both players have a bunch of pieces which all have the same function. And they don't even move! Yet, Go hasn't been solved, neither strongly, weakly, nor ultra weakly. Two things are relevant. First, the number of different pieces doesn't matter that much for the complexity of the game. The number of options (moves) a player has does. And while a pawn doesn't have that many moves, there are a lot of pawns on the board! Not to mention that a lot of pawns means a lot of possible promotions, and hence, a lot of possible moves. Second, it's horde. Not chess. Chess is a well known game, and will attract a lot of people willing to spend resources (brain and computer power) to "solve chess". Horde is, well horde. A marginal game. It attracts far less people willing to solve it. But, hey, if you think horde is so much simpler than chess, why don't you solve it?

Alientcp

Nobody cares?

Katoh1 edited

It depends what exactly do you mean by solved. As far as I remember horde is considered a win for the side with the pieces.