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DvdB

#11

Quieter option

Slow italian
Chameleon Sicilian / Closed Sicilian /
Monte Carlo French
Panov against the Caro

For: Philidor/QGD

Crazy option

Italian heading for Greco Attack
Grand Prix Sicilian
KIA against
Tal variation against Caro

For black: Nf6 Scandi and Albin counter Gambit / reversed Jobava London structures

Quieter option Slow italian Chameleon Sicilian / Closed Sicilian / Monte Carlo French Panov against the Caro For: Philidor/QGD Crazy option Italian heading for Greco Attack Grand Prix Sicilian KIA against Tal variation against Caro For black: Nf6 Scandi and Albin counter Gambit / reversed Jobava London structures

kindaspongey

#12

https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/best-opening-for-beginners

Nomoreusernames

#13

@street_dancer_3D said in #8:

Scotch as white, petroff as black.
Is the Petrov forcing?

@street_dancer_3D said in #8: > Scotch as white, petroff as black. Is the Petrov forcing?

street_dancer_3D

#14

@Nomoreusernames said in #13:

Is the Petrov forcing?
Mostly, yes. It's straightforward and solid.

@Nomoreusernames said in #13: > Is the Petrov forcing? Mostly, yes. It's straightforward and solid.

street_dancer_3D

#15

As a beginner it's important to start with something simple and not so varied.

A_Dragon_Riding_King

#16

Honestly, just don't. Make sure they understand the opening basics and principles, and let them play. I played for years without knowing that people named sequences of moves. I still remember playing with a friend as white, 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 and my friend went, "ah, the ruy lopez." And then I got nervous! At that point I didn't know that there were opening principles, I just played by trial and error, and found that 1.e4 was best by test. Then pinning his knight to undermine his e5 pawn(at the time I didn't know there was a way for him to regain the pawn) was a simple continuation. I castled because I saw it protected my king, I didn't know that is was a vital part of the opening. And IF I had known openings, I would have been constantly worried that I didn't know this line or that line, or at this point I'm out of "theory".

All this to say, beginners don't need to know openings, let them play and learn what is best by their own test, because you learn best through your own mistakes.

Honestly, just don't. Make sure they understand the opening basics and principles, and let them play. I played for years without knowing that people named sequences of moves. I still remember playing with a friend as white, 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 and my friend went, "ah, the ruy lopez." And then I got nervous! At that point I didn't know that there were opening principles, I just played by trial and error, and found that 1.e4 was best by test. Then pinning his knight to undermine his e5 pawn(at the time I didn't know there was a way for him to regain the pawn) was a simple continuation. I castled because I saw it protected my king, I didn't know that is was a vital part of the opening. And IF I had known openings, I would have been constantly worried that I didn't know this line or that line, or at this point I'm out of "theory". All this to say, beginners don't need to know openings, let them play and learn what is best by their own test, because you learn best through your own mistakes.

MAGNus_204

#17

make him do lichess basics and then practice because if he has good positional sense then he wont even need to know any opening

The_ThreeChecks

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#18

@FanDesEchecs said in #1:

I have a friend who is begins to chess,with what opening should it start?the london system?and with black people?

Just tell him/her to follow the opening principles

Develop the Pieces
Control the center
Bring the king to safety (Castle!)

I don't think its important for beginners to learn opening theory and all that stuff
at this level just tell him to play e4 kings pawn opening and with black against e4 just e5 and against d4 just d5

@FanDesEchecs said in #1: > I have a friend who is begins to chess,with what opening should it start?the london system?and with black people? Just tell him/her to follow the opening principles 1. Develop the Pieces 2. Control the center 3. Bring the king to safety (Castle!) I don't think its important for beginners to learn opening theory and all that stuff at this level just tell him to play e4 kings pawn opening and with black against e4 just e5 and against d4 just d5

MAGNus_204

#19

@street_dancer_3D said in #14:

Mostly, yes. It's straightforward and solid.
e4 e5 nf3 nf6 d4 line is complicated

@street_dancer_3D said in #14: > Mostly, yes. It's straightforward and solid. e4 e5 nf3 nf6 d4 line is complicated

street_dancer_3D

#20

@MAGNus_204 said in #19:

e4 e5 nf3 nf6 d4 line is complicated.
Nothing's complicated at the beginner level alright? Just develop the pieces castle, bring the rooks etc and play chess. I wouldn't suggest anybody to learn anything over 7moves because it's waste of energy and time.

@MAGNus_204 said in #19: > e4 e5 nf3 nf6 d4 line is complicated. Nothing's complicated at the beginner level alright? Just develop the pieces castle, bring the rooks etc and play chess. I wouldn't suggest anybody to learn anything over 7moves because it's waste of energy and time.