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What will be the future of chess?

#21

Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that.

As long as evil & crooked individuals keep pushing this A.I. rhetoric, from top down, the entire world will be six feet under, sooner than later, sooner than 99% people can imagine. And frankly I don't mind. I'm glad zero ability, zero skill, zero integrity people finally get their chance at (fake) purpose.

Then there's is this pushing of "esportifying" chess or whatever, again, from higher up corporate crooks with no real interest in chess. Everyone not jumping on this bandwagon instantly gets a negative label by big brother. Meanwhile, "Dr. Lupo"..... And "Freestyle" which numbers prove nobody actually cares about, apart from Magnus and his newfound corporate life. To clarify, I'm pro-eSports, competitive gaming I find a better term, but NOT in a chess context.

I don't care much about chess anymore to be honest. Too busy partying on earth's last breath.

Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that. As long as evil & crooked individuals keep pushing this A.I. rhetoric, from top down, the entire world will be six feet under, sooner than later, sooner than 99% people can imagine. And frankly I don't mind. I'm glad zero ability, zero skill, zero integrity people finally get their chance at (fake) purpose. Then there's is this pushing of "esportifying" chess or whatever, again, from higher up corporate crooks with no real interest in chess. Everyone not jumping on this bandwagon instantly gets a negative label by big brother. Meanwhile, "Dr. Lupo"..... And "Freestyle" which numbers prove nobody actually cares about, apart from Magnus and his newfound corporate life. To clarify, I'm pro-eSports, competitive gaming I find a better term, but NOT in a chess context. I don't care much about chess anymore to be honest. Too busy partying on earth's last breath.
#22

I like chess... but these are the big questions that people want to know. It's like you're saying that in Christianity that Jesus came back to life. In what sort of what did he come back and how?

That's like the ultimate questions that people want to figure out... like the future of things

@Amaloco said, "Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that."

@Amaloco it looks like there are 6 feet of pages under the ground. There are just some many questions that people want to know.

I like chess... but these are the big questions that people want to know. It's like you're saying that in Christianity that Jesus came back to life. In what sort of what did he come back and how? That's like the ultimate questions that people want to figure out... like the future of things @Amaloco said, "Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that." @Amaloco it looks like there are 6 feet of pages under the ground. There are just some many questions that people want to know.
#23

@Amaloco said in #21: Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that.

As long as evil & crooked individuals keep pushing this A.I. rhetoric, from top down, the entire world will be six feet under, sooner than later, sooner than 99% people can imagine. And frankly I don't mind. I'm glad zero ability, zero skill, zero integrity people finally get their chance at (fake) purpose.

Then there's is this pushing of "esportifying" chess or whatever, again, from higher up corporate crooks with no real interest in chess. Everyone not jumping on this bandwagon instantly gets a negative label by big brother. Meanwhile, "Dr. Lupo"..... And "Freestyle" which numbers prove nobody actually cares about, apart from Magnus and his newfound corporate life. To clarify, I'm pro-eSports, competitive gaming I find a better term, but NOT in a chess context.

I don't care much about chess anymore to be honest. Too busy partying on earth's last breath.

@PawnRookQueenKing said in #23:

I think I disagree with the last two sentences @Amaloco. There is so much that we can see in our eyes, and our ears. Also, computers take binary numbers.

@Amaloco said in #21: Six feet under the ground is the future. Just look at these forums, bot this, bot that, engine this, engine that. As long as evil & crooked individuals keep pushing this A.I. rhetoric, from top down, the entire world will be six feet under, sooner than later, sooner than 99% people can imagine. And frankly I don't mind. I'm glad zero ability, zero skill, zero integrity people finally get their chance at (fake) purpose. Then there's is this pushing of "esportifying" chess or whatever, again, from higher up corporate crooks with no real interest in chess. Everyone not jumping on this bandwagon instantly gets a negative label by big brother. Meanwhile, "Dr. Lupo"..... And "Freestyle" which numbers prove nobody actually cares about, apart from Magnus and his newfound corporate life. To clarify, I'm pro-eSports, competitive gaming I find a better term, but NOT in a chess context. I don't care much about chess anymore to be honest. Too busy partying on earth's last breath. @PawnRookQueenKing said in #23: I think I disagree with the last two sentences @Amaloco. There is so much that we can see in our eyes, and our ears. Also, computers take binary numbers.
#24

@Amaloco said in #21: Six feet under the ground is the future.

Each will find themselves where their level of consciousness has destined them to be - a level we either refine or dull during our brief manifestation on this planet.

Six feet under is not an end, but a mirror of how you lived your present. If you recognized yourself in love, creativity, or service - that will become your new 'soil.' If you forgot - you’ll repeat the lesson (though the Universe is patient).

@Amaloco said in #21: Six feet under the ground is the future. Each will find themselves where their level of consciousness has destined them to be - a level we either refine or dull during our brief manifestation on this planet. Six feet under is not an end, but a mirror of how you lived your present. If you recognized yourself in love, creativity, or service - that will become your new 'soil.' If you forgot - you’ll repeat the lesson (though the Universe is patient).
#25

@pauliewoll said in #3:

The game - rules and gameplay - is fine as it is, certanly for 99.999% of the playing population.

What I'm seeing in the city where I live and play are hundreds of ferocious juniors attending sessions, in person and in online classes, where they are fed lots and lots of puzzles, with the coach talking them though each one and what works and what doesn't work. Result? These kids see everything. Every pin and fork and skewer and discovered attack. They're then bringing this to their competitive games and tearing the adults to pieces.

I think you're only focusing on their strong point, and thinking of how fearsome they can be. At their worst, they are basically free points for a guy like you. I'll show you an example. White is a 13 or 14 year old boy. He drew a GM in the previous round and had his chances to beat an IM earlier as well.

  1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Qh4?! 5. Nxc6 (played in around 30 seconds) and White is just busted. You'd win that as Black probably 90 times out of 100 against this kid. He ended the game with all his time used, but the contest was over in minutes.

Young kids have a ton of weaknesses but it's harder to get at those if you are intimidated by them instead of regarding them as cannon-fodder as experienced club players used to do earlier on.

https://lichess.org/broadcast/kcas-festival-gods-own-countrys-1st-gm-international-category-a/round-6/rw8c8fLz/WGUD8mTh

@pauliewoll said in #3: > The game - rules and gameplay - is fine as it is, certanly for 99.999% of the playing population. > > What I'm seeing in the city where I live and play are hundreds of ferocious juniors attending sessions, in person and in online classes, where they are fed lots and lots of puzzles, with the coach talking them though each one and what works and what doesn't work. Result? These kids see *everything*. Every pin and fork and skewer and discovered attack. They're then bringing this to their competitive games and tearing the adults to pieces. > I think you're only focusing on their strong point, and thinking of how fearsome they can be. At their worst, they are basically free points for a guy like you. I'll show you an example. White is a 13 or 14 year old boy. He drew a GM in the previous round and had his chances to beat an IM earlier as well. 1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Qh4?! 5. Nxc6 (played in around 30 seconds) and White is just busted. You'd win that as Black probably 90 times out of 100 against this kid. He ended the game with all his time used, but the contest was over in minutes. Young kids have a ton of weaknesses but it's harder to get at those if you are intimidated by them instead of regarding them as cannon-fodder as experienced club players used to do earlier on. https://lichess.org/broadcast/kcas-festival-gods-own-countrys-1st-gm-international-category-a/round-6/rw8c8fLz/WGUD8mTh
#27

Power-ups, money (in-game) and stockfish -1

Power-ups, money (in-game) and stockfish -1
#28

@Abigail-III

Why is it like this? Why don't people just try out different kinds of chess that can be more fun and creative, whether they’re easy or tough? That’s a good question. And particularly the elite, like conventional chess is far from easy to master nor overly complicated, they don't seem eager to indulge in 10x8 Chess or that kind with unorthodox pieces for a reason, is there ?

A while back, someone said that playing just regular chess your whole life is kinda like living in NYC and never stepping outside the city.

Basically, a ton of fun that could have happened but didn’t, for reasons like old habits or just because that's how it is everywhere

@Abigail-III Why is it like this? Why don't people just try out different kinds of chess that can be more fun and creative, whether they’re easy or tough? That’s a good question. And particularly the elite, like conventional chess is far from easy to master nor overly complicated, they don't seem eager to indulge in 10x8 Chess or that kind with unorthodox pieces for a reason, is there ? A while back, someone said that playing just regular chess your whole life is kinda like living in NYC and never stepping outside the city. Basically, a ton of fun that could have happened but didn’t, for reasons like old habits or just because that's how it is everywhere
#29

I guess the future holds a lot for the chess community. As mentioned, the chess variants are already there. I have seen pictures of 3-player and 4-player chess as well. Along with such variations, the future appears to be bringing a blend of digital and traditional chess, further evolution of what smart chessboards are doing today.

Besides, we might see more rules governing how chess can be played in the online mode. And, to add more impact, AR/VR technologies might also enter the arena, allowing chess players to play online from their place of comfort while getting the same feel as face to face matches.

I guess the future holds a lot for the chess community. As mentioned, the chess variants are already there. I have seen pictures of 3-player and 4-player chess as well. Along with such variations, the future appears to be bringing a blend of digital and traditional chess, further evolution of what smart chessboards are doing today. Besides, we might see more rules governing how chess can be played in the online mode. And, to add more impact, AR/VR technologies might also enter the arena, allowing chess players to play online from their place of comfort while getting the same feel as face to face matches.
#30

@Nordlandia said in #28:

A while back, someone said that playing just regular chess your whole life is kinda like living in NYC and never stepping outside the city.
Basically, a ton of fun that could have happened but didn’t, for reasons like old habits or just because that's how it is everywhere
When I was young, I had a lot of free time and was interested in many different things, often only very loosely related. I suppose it is natural, just at it is natural that when I got older and have job and family, I have much less free time and have to focus more carefully what I spend it on. And spreading my focus over too many different things feels much less appealing than it used to when I was e.g. 25.

@Nordlandia said in #28: > A while back, someone said that playing just regular chess your whole life is kinda like living in NYC and never stepping outside the city. > Basically, a ton of fun that could have happened but didn’t, for reasons like old habits or just because that's how it is everywhere When I was young, I had a lot of free time and was interested in many different things, often only very loosely related. I suppose it is natural, just at it is natural that when I got older and have job and family, I have much less free time and have to focus more carefully what I spend it on. And spreading my focus over too many different things feels much less appealing than it used to when I was e.g. 25.

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