@crtex said in #10:
The exact precise way you play in the opening against hypermodern setups will not decide whether you win or lose. ...
But perhaps it might make the game easier or harder.
@crtex said in #10:
> The exact precise way you play in the opening against hypermodern setups will not decide whether you win or lose. ...
But perhaps it might make the game easier or harder.
My general idea (since I mostly want an interesting game) is to play
classically vs a hypermodern opening and visa versa.
My general idea (since I mostly want an interesting game) is to play
classically vs a hypermodern opening and visa versa.
@teachmewell said in #1:
I look for a strategy against all the hypermodern openings where you do not put pawns into the center, fianchetto the bishop and attack only when development is done.
Should I put my center pawns on same or different coloured squares?
Should I even occupy the center at all?
Pawn storm against the early castle with a hook?
What to do with the indirectly pinned rook?
Should I play a hypermodern development in turn?
All ideas I could find are aimed at specific openings and end with the bishops being exchanged (KID). Afterwards, no idea...
There's no way anyone is going to answer all of this on a Lichess forum... you are asking questions that have a century of theory and ideas behind them and different players will offer different answers of course. I think what you are generally looking for could be found in 'Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy: Advances since Nimzowitsch' by John Watson. It's a remarkable book. I'd probably say about the last question, not to play hypermodern openings against another hypermodern opening, if an opponent offers you the centre then just take it. A lot of hypermodern openings aren't as complex as they seem.
@teachmewell said in #1:
> I look for a strategy against all the hypermodern openings where you do not put pawns into the center, fianchetto the bishop and attack only when development is done.
> Should I put my center pawns on same or different coloured squares?
> Should I even occupy the center at all?
> Pawn storm against the early castle with a hook?
> What to do with the indirectly pinned rook?
> Should I play a hypermodern development in turn?
>
> All ideas I could find are aimed at specific openings and end with the bishops being exchanged (KID). Afterwards, no idea...
There's no way anyone is going to answer all of this on a Lichess forum... you are asking questions that have a century of theory and ideas behind them and different players will offer different answers of course. I think what you are generally looking for could be found in 'Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy: Advances since Nimzowitsch' by John Watson. It's a remarkable book. I'd probably say about the last question, not to play hypermodern openings against another hypermodern opening, if an opponent offers you the centre then just take it. A lot of hypermodern openings aren't as complex as they seem.
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Secrets_of_Modern_Chess_Strategy.pdf
@kindaspongey said in #6:
... At https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/how-to-attack, you presented games where you also seemed to me to make reckless attacking decisions. in this case, your position just seemed to progress to greater and greater disadvantage. ... After [1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 a3 Bxc3 5 bxc3 c5 6 Qc2 d6 7 d4 Nc6 8 e4 O-O], you chose 9 e5 without any apparent concern that both of your bishops were still at home, and you still had not castled. (Resistance to O-O seemed to be a theme of your other two games, as well.) After 9 e5, the machine sees the position as approximately level. It thinks that 9 Be2 would have been better. ...
@teachmewell said in #7:
... Resistance to castling is not.. suggested..? ...
@kindaspongey said in #8:
... "... One of the three golden rules of the opening is to ensure king safety. In the majority of cases this means simply tucking up the king safely by castling. However, it's not always quite as simple as that. Sometimes when you castle early you have to be careful not to run into an attack by, say, inviting a pawn storm. Similarly, when the pawn centre is closed and your king is in no immediate danger in the middle of the board, on occasion it pays to keep your options open regarding whether to castle 'short' or 'long'. ..." - Discovering Chess Openings (2006) by GM John Emms
If you play a move like 9 e5, it does not seem that you can expect the center to be closed and your king to continue to be in no immediate danger in the middle of the board. ...
At https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/how-to-improve-my-general-endgame#7
@teachmewell said in #7:
... I just checked the castling ratio on lichess, it sais
Kingside castling 54.5% 10% 35.5% 110
Queenside castling 53.8% 0% 46.2% 13
No castling 67.1% 2.4% 30.6% 85
first number are wins, second are draws, third are losses, forth are number of games.
Is 85/218 games uncastled a bad score?
I am not sure what conclusion (if any) is, in your opinion, justified by your “score”, but, I think that most believe a castling decision should be based on the specific details of the position that one is facing. After 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 a3 Bxc3 5 bxc3 c5 6 Qc2 d6 7 d4 Nc6 8 e4 O-O, I suspect that many would think that preparation for castling with 9 Be2 would be a better choice than immediately playing for a more open center with 9 e5.
@kindaspongey said in #6:
> ... At https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/how-to-attack, you presented games where you also seemed to me to make reckless attacking decisions. in this case, your position just seemed to progress to greater and greater disadvantage. ... After [1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 a3 Bxc3 5 bxc3 c5 6 Qc2 d6 7 d4 Nc6 8 e4 O-O], you chose 9 e5 without any apparent concern that both of your bishops were still at home, and you still had not castled. (Resistance to O-O seemed to be a theme of your other two games, as well.) After 9 e5, the machine sees the position as approximately level. It thinks that 9 Be2 would have been better. ...
@teachmewell said in #7:
> ... Resistance to castling is not.. suggested..? ...
@kindaspongey said in #8:
> ... "... One of the three golden rules of the opening is to ensure king safety. In the majority of cases this means simply tucking up the king safely by castling. However, it's not always quite as simple as that. Sometimes when you castle early you have to be careful not to run into an attack by, say, inviting a pawn storm. Similarly, when the pawn centre is closed and your king is in no immediate danger in the middle of the board, on occasion it pays to keep your options open regarding whether to castle 'short' or 'long'. ..." - Discovering Chess Openings (2006) by GM John Emms
> If you play a move like 9 e5, it does not seem that you can expect the center to be closed and your king to continue to be in no immediate danger in the middle of the board. ...
At https://lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/how-to-improve-my-general-endgame#7
@teachmewell said in #7:
> ... I just checked the castling ratio on lichess, it sais
>
> Kingside castling 54.5% 10% 35.5% 110
> Queenside castling 53.8% 0% 46.2% 13
> No castling 67.1% 2.4% 30.6% 85
>
> first number are wins, second are draws, third are losses, forth are number of games.
>
> Is 85/218 games uncastled a bad score?
I am not sure what conclusion (if any) is, in your opinion, justified by your “score”, but, I think that most believe a castling decision should be based on the specific details of the position that one is facing. After 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 a3 Bxc3 5 bxc3 c5 6 Qc2 d6 7 d4 Nc6 8 e4 O-O, I suspect that many would think that preparation for castling with 9 Be2 would be a better choice than immediately playing for a more open center with 9 e5.
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@teachmewell said in #1:
I look for a strategy against all the hypermodern openings where you do not put pawns into the center, fianchetto the bishop and attack only when development is done.
Should I put my center pawns on same or different coloured squares?
Should I even occupy the center at all? ...
Perhaps, it would be of interest to see this 2005 passage from Understanding the Chess Openings by IM Sam Collins:
“... [After 1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 g6, 4 f4 is perhaps] the critical response to the Pirc — White makes the e5 advance into a real threat. Black must act energetically in the centre. ... [After 4...Bg7 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Bd3 Nc6,] Black wants to play ...e5. ... White can cut across Black’s idea by 7 e5 ... [After 7 0-0, 7...e5] is the best option ... Black ... must establish a little pawn control in the center; otherwise he’ll be squashed by e5. ...”
@teachmewell said in #1:
> I look for a strategy against all the hypermodern openings where you do not put pawns into the center, fianchetto the bishop and attack only when development is done.
> Should I put my center pawns on same or different coloured squares?
> Should I even occupy the center at all? ...
Perhaps, it would be of interest to see this 2005 passage from Understanding the Chess Openings by IM Sam Collins:
“... [After 1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 g6, 4 f4 is perhaps] the critical response to the Pirc — White makes the e5 advance into a real threat. Black must act energetically in the centre. ... [After 4...Bg7 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Bd3 Nc6,] Black wants to play ...e5. ... White can cut across Black’s idea by 7 e5 ... [After 7 0-0, 7...e5] is the best option ... Black ... must establish a little pawn control in the center; otherwise he’ll be squashed by e5. ...”