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What is the most moves you can make in a chess game without it being draw?

#11

@Zubbubu My thinking was that you have to claim a draw for it to be a draw. If no player claims it doesn't matter how many times a position repeats, the game will go on forever.

Yes, I do ignore it because I don't think it matters. Please anyone, educate me here if it does.

@Zubbubu My thinking was that you have to claim a draw for it to be a draw. If no player claims it doesn't matter how many times a position repeats, the game will go on forever. Yes, I do ignore it because I don't think it matters. Please anyone, educate me here if it does.
#13

If I understand the FIDE rules correctly:

After 50 moves, a player can claim a draw if no capture has been made and no pawn has been moved - but it's not a must, so if both players share the goal of "playing the longest game allowed by the rules" , for example, they can keep on playing after 50 moves.

BUT: After 75 moves without a capture or taking of a pawn, the arbiter must declare the game drawn.

If I understand the FIDE rules correctly: After 50 moves, a player *can* claim a draw if no capture has been made and no pawn has been moved - but it's not a must, so if both players share the goal of "playing the longest game allowed by the rules" , for example, they can keep on playing after 50 moves. BUT: After 75 moves without a capture or taking of a pawn, the arbiter *must* declare the game drawn.
#14

Yes, that seems to be the case. The longest game according to my calculation then is 8807 moves. Correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, that seems to be the case. The longest game according to my calculation then is 8807 moves. Correct me if I am wrong.
#15

@what_game_is_this

According to Wikipedia:

"However, in the 20th century it was discovered that certain endgame positions are winnable but require more than 50 moves (without a capture or a pawn move). The rule was therefore changed to allow certain exceptions in which 100 moves were allowed with particular material combinations. However, winnable positions that required even more moves were later discovered, and in 1992, FIDE abolished all such exceptions and reinstated the strict 50-move rule."

But since the 50-move rule is voluntary, it would seem to imply an infinity of possible moves. I don't see mention in this entry of a compulsory 75-move rule.

@what_game_is_this According to Wikipedia: "However, in the 20th century it was discovered that certain endgame positions are winnable but require more than 50 moves (without a capture or a pawn move). The rule was therefore changed to allow certain exceptions in which 100 moves were allowed with particular material combinations. However, winnable positions that required even more moves were later discovered, and in 1992, FIDE abolished all such exceptions and reinstated the strict 50-move rule." But since the 50-move rule is voluntary, it would seem to imply an infinity of possible moves. I don't see mention in this entry of a compulsory 75-move rule.
#16

@Zubbubu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess#Draws

"The game ends immediately with a draw by the intervention of the arbiter, without a draw request necessary:
When the same board position has occurred five times (see fivefold repetition rule).
When the moves without capture or pawn move extend up to seventy-five (see seventy-five-move rule)."

@Zubbubu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess#Draws "The game ends immediately with a draw by the intervention of the arbiter, without a draw request necessary: When the same board position has occurred five times (see fivefold repetition rule). When the moves without capture or pawn move extend up to seventy-five (see seventy-five-move rule)."
#19

@Panagrellus
@what_game_is_this

Oh ok. Never knew about the five-time repetition rule. So that would imply that even without the 75-move rule the number of possible moves is still not infinite.

@Panagrellus @what_game_is_this Oh ok. Never knew about the five-time repetition rule. So that would imply that even without the 75-move rule the number of possible moves is still not infinite.

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