I put quotation mark around the words while writing "engine that uses 7-man tablebase" to emphasize that it's ENGINE who I mean to use tablebase, not me.
I well know that 7-man tablebase is available for free in multiple places of internet, including lichess, but it's in a form that allows you to just check a single, chosen position, not allowing you to run an engine that makes thousands or millions of tablebase hits, to literally solve certain types of endgame... which is kinda one of the points of using tablebase with engines ;)
Even a patzer like me often encounters 8-9 -man positions that are "theoretical draws", while newest Stockfish still gives them even an evaluation around 3-4... while a Stockfish with Tablebase would dismantle such position very, very fast and figured out that it's just a draw.
As an example: Most of us that follows some of the chess events live probably heard about Sesse (https://analysis.sesse.net/), which is someone's very strong computer with dozens of cores, that uses tablebase during evaluation and gives us much better view on what's going on, especially in the endgame, than evaluations made on our own PCs.
Putting Lomonosov's ~140 TB (terabytes) tablebase aside, even Syzygy's 18.4 TB is an overkill for me,as I am unable to afford myself for that right now.
I doubt that I will be able to freely use 7-man tablebase equipped engine somewhere on the internet, but maybe there is a place, where I could evaluate some position at least once per day for free?
Or some place, where I can do it cheaply?
Or some website that allows that for supporting them and is not too expensive?
Or maybe some very cheap cloud computing would allow me to do this, though with 18.4 terabytes needed...idk..?
Any ideas?
Bump.
@Scarlet_Evans https://syzygy-tables.info/
@kaissa44 you didn't even read my post before writing that response that's basically against of what I ask for, did you?
@Scarlet_Evans I don't know, that's the best I could come up with after a quick Google search
@kaissa44
Well, thank you for trying though :)
The problem is, what you linked is just a way to check a single position at a time and by yourself, not a thousands or more of them every single second by an engine, which doesn't fully utilize the power that tablebase can possibly give to a chess engine :)
For using an engine with 7-man TB, I would need tremendous amount of disc space, which I don't have, thus I wonder what other possibilities are out there :-(
Install 6 men EGTB. It's sold as Endgame Turbo by Chessbase but look around the web. I n Endgame Turbo, K+R+2P vs K+R+1P is included.
A tablebase won't change stockfish's evaluation.
Earlier someone posted a position that was +90 that was drawn. Everyone ought to know that positions that are far from zero can be draws.
It's very easy to use stockfish to find draws. The first step in learning how to do that is stop expecting an evaluation of zero, and instead watch how stockfish reacts to drawn positions.
A tablebase actually will change stockfish's evaluation because it consults it during its search. Stockfish + Tablebase is stronger than Stockfish alone.
Unfortunately I cannot help the op but it would be interesting if cloud engines had tablebase built into them. For instance chessify is a great service, but I don't remember them also using tablebase, but it seems like it'd go great with their service.
1. Download 6 men syzgy table base in your harddrive. It is 151 GB . For 7 men TB , you need much bigger harddrive.
https://chess.massimilianogoi.com/download/tablebases/
Stockfish will be seeing/consulting Tablebase results even in opening phase. (See 24 Tablebase hit at move 20 in this opening position)
https://imgur.com/qw6D9NI
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