to allow or not allow takebacks

I never ask for but often accept takebacks. But when I see that it wasn't even a mouseslip but they move a completely different piece, I usually get upset and lose the game even if I my position still was good.

I think most of the takebackers do that to disturb the opponent. They don't sey thank you, don't offer draw when finally being winning. They probably are sitting at home geinning and say "haha what a loser" when getting granted takebacks.

Still, I cant stop feeling bad when I deny the takebacks. Would be easier if it were not even a thing in Lichess, but so I am stuck with getting angry again and again.

I allow takebacks if my opponent accepts mine 1st

@Sybotes said in #11:

I never ask for but often accept takebacks. But when I see that it wasn't even a mouseslip but they move a completely different piece, I usually get upset and lose the game even if I my position still was good.

I think most of the takebackers do that to disturb the opponent. They don't sey thank you, don't offer draw when finally being winning. They probably are sitting at home geinning and say "haha what a loser" when getting granted takebacks.

Still, I cant stop feeling bad when I deny the takebacks. Would be easier if it were not even a thing in Lichess, but so I am stuck with getting angry again and again. @Sybotes I only accept takebacks if I know it was mouse slip. The people who your talking about are just cheaters, so don’t gives them takeback. Your not learning anything if your playing against cheater. So if it’s a causal game just resign.

@keithchess11 said in #1:

I've just recently started playing on lichess. I have my takebacks set on my profile to "casual games only."

I've played a couple thousand games of chess. In many of those games, winning or losing came down to a critical move, or a critical mistake. Either by me, or by my opponent. In post game analysis, you can see advantage point swings of sometimes 14 points.... that move made all the difference.

I started playing with the default for takebacks --- and I found that in many games, the players made a mistake only to realize it AFTER I've already captured their piece. I started off allowing the takebacks, only to then go on and lose the game. I may not have won, but there's a reasonable chance I would have as a result of their mistake.

The opponents often say it was a "mouse slip", but moving the same piece to ANY nearby square wouldn't have made sense. They didn't mouse slip, they just failed to take the time to think through the move. This often happens with a move time of 2 or 3 seconds. They were going too fast --- which I often do, and blundered. It wasn't time pressure, they could have used minutes to think through the move decision.

The main cause of why I lose games almost always comes back to blundering a rook, or a queen. The blunder IS the inflection point. If I had a mulligan for every game, I'd probably have a higher rating.

I had someone today who was aghast that I had takebacks set that way. Why should the responsibility to protect the opponents' good position in the game fall on me?

What's the common etiquette surrounding those, and what do most users do?
@keithchess11 i only accept takebacks 1 if it’s my friends
2 if the opponent grants my takeback 1st.

I personally have not enabled takebacks, as I believe operating a mouse/keyboard should be the very minimal requisite in order to participate in online chess.

takebacks are for losing mouslips, in a otherwise winning/equal position. one such example off this kind of mouseslip(this was in arena so no takeback)-

I personally don’t ask for or accept take backs whether it is a mouse slip or simple decision regret. Making a move and living with the consequence is part of the game.

@Deadban said in #2:

There's no etiquette about it. You either accept it or decline it, everyone is free to make their choices.
@Deadban is right If you want to you can if you don't want to dont

You shouldn't have takebacks because even if you propose a takeback, your opponent won't accept it. That is why I recommend double checking your moves.

I had a mouse slip that changed a game but my opponent didn't let me take back