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Does Lichess show my real rating? I am not really sure cos some people say that real rating is always 300 lower than the Lichess rating. Is that true?

cafecheck

#2

It's your real lichess rating. I believe you can google a way to convert it to an estimated FIDE rating.

petri999

#3

@Queenoo google the forums´. There are about 200 threads about issue. To have real ratin you have to play in real tournament. And real Elo means real FIDE sanctioned events. Then you can link your FIDE ID to you profile.

ProfDrHack

#4

Lichess uses a different rating system (Glicko-2 instead of Elo), has a different player pool and this pool is further divided into different time control pools. It just happens to use a rating scale that is superficially similar to the FIDE elo one.

Comparing Lichess to FIDE rating is like comparing apples to oranges. You can compare their size or try to do fancy mathematics to convert one's calory density into the other's and estimate how similar they taste and stuff, but fundamentally, they are two entirely separate things.

Lichess uses a different rating system (Glicko-2 instead of Elo), has a different player pool and this pool is further divided into different time control pools. It just happens to use a rating scale that is superficially similar to the FIDE elo one. Comparing Lichess to FIDE rating is like comparing apples to oranges. You can compare their size or try to do fancy mathematics to convert one's calory density into the other's and estimate how similar they taste and stuff, but fundamentally, they are two entirely separate things.

DarkMatter37331

#5

there is an equation that can give your approximated elo rating. The equation is:

Estimated elo rating=187 + 0.38 x classical lichess rating + lichess blitz rating x 0.48

For example, my lichess classical rating is 1790 and my blitz rating is 1458, so my estimated elo rating would be about 1562 (Even though my FIDE rating is 1081)

there is an equation that can give your approximated elo rating. The equation is: Estimated elo rating=187 + 0.38 x classical lichess rating + lichess blitz rating x 0.48 For example, my lichess classical rating is 1790 and my blitz rating is 1458, so my estimated elo rating would be about 1562 (Even though my FIDE rating is 1081)

petri999

#6

Yeah that's the second issue. Most weak player have highly in accurate Elo. Most tournaments ar usually Non-Elo rated. Having tournament as Elo-counting does not cost anything but requires certain standard for arbiters so quite many organizers wont bother. And in some countries local rules might not be very same as FIDE and hence people may even prefer country sanctioned event

@ProfDrHack Glicko-2 and Elo are more similar than different. Underlying model is the same and they would give same results given enough of games. At least point differences between any two players would be abotu the same. Obviously as you said different pool is important. as long new players keep coming median of the pool will remain at 1500. Not so with Elo though as the rate on newcomers/quitters vs establishplayers is completely different and median does not get followed. Nor do people want it

Yeah that's the second issue. Most weak player have highly in accurate Elo. Most tournaments ar usually Non-Elo rated. Having tournament as Elo-counting does not cost anything but requires certain standard for arbiters so quite many organizers wont bother. And in some countries local rules might not be very same as FIDE and hence people may even prefer country sanctioned event @ProfDrHack Glicko-2 and Elo are more similar than different. Underlying model is the same and they would give same results given enough of games. At least point differences between any two players would be abotu the same. Obviously as you said different pool is important. as long new players keep coming median of the pool will remain at 1500. Not so with Elo though as the rate on newcomers/quitters vs establishplayers is completely different and median does not get followed. Nor do people want it