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Playing versus people with bot assist

So I literally just made this account for this topic only. I tend to play 1+0 bullet without logging in (as anonymous). The biggest problem I face is players who are terrible at the game, yes even my 2400-2500 bullet skills terrible. They blunder a queen a rook or a piece in 10-15 moves. Then! I fight a second opponent! A bot this person plugs mid game. They instantly start taking almost no time per move despite before taking a standard random amount and despite what I do ( like a surprise queen sac with a check ) the time per move does not increase hence I believe it's a bot. And well I'm not that good to win a bullet game even rook up versus instantly moving bot... Thoughts? Is there rly no way of checking this behavior and forcing instant resigns from people using bots? This is not about rating etc just about integrity of the game. I have screen shots with time used and positions, just dunno how to add to this on phone.

So I literally just made this account for this topic only. I tend to play 1+0 bullet without logging in (as anonymous). The biggest problem I face is players who are terrible at the game, yes even my 2400-2500 bullet skills terrible. They blunder a queen a rook or a piece in 10-15 moves. Then! I fight a second opponent! A bot this person plugs mid game. They instantly start taking almost no time per move despite before taking a standard random amount and despite what I do ( like a surprise queen sac with a check ) the time per move does not increase hence I believe it's a bot. And well I'm not that good to win a bullet game even rook up versus instantly moving bot... Thoughts? Is there rly no way of checking this behavior and forcing instant resigns from people using bots? This is not about rating etc just about integrity of the game. I have screen shots with time used and positions, just dunno how to add to this on phone.

Without logging in? If so, all anonymous users are bots...

Without logging in? If so, all anonymous users are bots...

@shadowbanningclowns said in #1:

So I literally just made this account for this topic only. I tend to play 1+0 bullet without logging in (as anonymous). The biggest problem I face is players who are terrible at the game, yes even my 2400-2500 bullet skills terrible. They blunder a queen a rook or a piece in 10-15 moves. Then! I fight a second opponent! A bot this person plugs mid game. They instantly start taking almost no time per move despite before taking a standard random amount and despite what I do ( like a surprise queen sac with a check ) the time per move does not increase hence I believe it's a bot. And well I'm not that good to win a bullet game even rook up versus instantly moving bot... Thoughts? Is there rly no way of checking this behavior and forcing instant resigns from people using bots? This is not about rating etc just about integrity of the game. I have screen shots with time used and positions, just dunno how to add to this on phone.

Its hard to stop anon from cheating as lichess needs time and multiple games to find cheaters and this is done manually as an automated system will have alot more false positives. Also then what does lichess ban their ip that can be changed without a vpn. anything on the computer can be removed and lichess does not want to collect or make any id system just for non users that will be easy doged

@shadowbanningclowns said in #1: > So I literally just made this account for this topic only. I tend to play 1+0 bullet without logging in (as anonymous). The biggest problem I face is players who are terrible at the game, yes even my 2400-2500 bullet skills terrible. They blunder a queen a rook or a piece in 10-15 moves. Then! I fight a second opponent! A bot this person plugs mid game. They instantly start taking almost no time per move despite before taking a standard random amount and despite what I do ( like a surprise queen sac with a check ) the time per move does not increase hence I believe it's a bot. And well I'm not that good to win a bullet game even rook up versus instantly moving bot... Thoughts? Is there rly no way of checking this behavior and forcing instant resigns from people using bots? This is not about rating etc just about integrity of the game. I have screen shots with time used and positions, just dunno how to add to this on phone. Its hard to stop anon from cheating as lichess needs time and multiple games to find cheaters and this is done manually as an automated system will have alot more false positives. Also then what does lichess ban their ip that can be changed without a vpn. anything on the computer can be removed and lichess does not want to collect or make any id system just for non users that will be easy doged
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@The_Blue_J said in #2:

Without logging in? If so, all anonymous users are bots...
Care to elaborate? The amount of mid game rage quits or people like behavior where a person can't win and starts giving up pieces or increases his per move time to flag me I experienced without logging in... I would disagree with your statement. However as stated above I did encounter bot users too.

@The_Blue_J said in #2: > Without logging in? If so, all anonymous users are bots... Care to elaborate? The amount of mid game rage quits or people like behavior where a person can't win and starts giving up pieces or increases his per move time to flag me I experienced without logging in... I would disagree with your statement. However as stated above I did encounter bot users too.

@shadowbanningclowns said in #1:

So I literally just made this account
Problem solved.

@shadowbanningclowns said in #1: > So I literally just made this account Problem solved.

@InkyDarkBird said in #6:

Problem solved.
Naaa you don't get the magic of playing someone with unknown rating... Like with account I play 2650 guys and I know I have low chance of winning just coz of mouse skills of premoving. Without logging in I get a range from 600 to 2600 etc... However what is to say that a person can't cheat this way while logged in? Like imagine in not so obvious way as I described above but like let's say in time pressure we both left under 5 sec and he plugs a bot... Will I even notice he's cheating? Probably not coz too busy premoving myself and not enough info for a report anyway so it's still up to website to catch such users.

@InkyDarkBird said in #6: > Problem solved. Naaa you don't get the magic of playing someone with unknown rating... Like with account I play 2650 guys and I know I have low chance of winning just coz of mouse skills of premoving. Without logging in I get a range from 600 to 2600 etc... However what is to say that a person can't cheat this way while logged in? Like imagine in not so obvious way as I described above but like let's say in time pressure we both left under 5 sec and he plugs a bot... Will I even notice he's cheating? Probably not coz too busy premoving myself and not enough info for a report anyway so it's still up to website to catch such users.

As (@)for_cryingout_loud has stated in #3, it is very difficult for Lichess to ban anonymous people for cheating.
You can also set your rating range by clicking the gear icon in the top right corner of the game selection area.

As (@)for_cryingout_loud has stated in #3, it is very difficult for Lichess to ban anonymous people for cheating. You can also set your rating range by clicking the gear icon in the top right corner of the game selection area.

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