In Anonymous I can get casual unrated 30/20 games faster and find that many Anonymous players are very good too. I am just an average player. Question: at what point do you think there is no benefit in continuing a loosing position?
For instance, I played a game and was down 2 knights as black. Continuing the game gave me practice in defense but it turned out the player was up to the task. So I resigned after loosing my queen after several skirmishes. So maybe I should have stopped at the 2 knights loss and focus on a better mid game?
In Anonymous I can get casual unrated 30/20 games faster and find that many Anonymous players are very good too. I am just an average player. Question: at what point do you think there is no benefit in continuing a loosing position?
For instance, I played a game and was down 2 knights as black. Continuing the game gave me practice in defense but it turned out the player was up to the task. So I resigned after loosing my queen after several skirmishes. So maybe I should have stopped at the 2 knights loss and focus on a better mid game?
The right time resign is when you are convinced that there is simply no way to avoid a loss and you have neither pleasure nor desire to continue the fight in the current position.
The right time to resign is also when you are 100% sure that your opponent knows how to convert the advantage - and here we come to your actual question: you never know that when you are playing games in anon mode - you can only guess - since the opponent managed to outplay you so far.
I am worried about you playing anon - many players use outside assistance there and it is/cannot be moderated.
May I advise you playing rated on your account - even if you wait longer for the games, you get to play people of your skill level - and would not have to ask the question, when to resign.
Happy chessing and all best :-)
The right time resign is when you are convinced that there is simply no way to avoid a loss and you have neither pleasure nor desire to continue the fight in the current position.
The right time to resign is also when you are 100% sure that your opponent knows how to convert the advantage - and here we come to your actual question: you never know that when you are playing games in anon mode - you can only guess - since the opponent managed to outplay you so far.
I am worried about you playing anon - many players use outside assistance there and it is/cannot be moderated.
May I advise you playing rated on your account - even if you wait longer for the games, you get to play people of your skill level - and would not have to ask the question, when to resign.
Happy chessing and all best :-)
Its up to you - nobody else can say you should resign. Anything could happen. Just don't let time run out instead of resigning, this is a practice of bad losers and w*nkers everywhere.
Its up to you - nobody else can say you should resign. Anything could happen. Just don't let time run out instead of resigning, this is a practice of bad losers and w*nkers everywhere.
I just want to add why I have liked Anonymous play although I have played Casual and Rated too:
- I understand why people play rated as you get to play at your level mostly.
- The rating system makes me feel bad about losing. Yes, I know it is there to adjust my opposition to my level. But for me it feels like having me either (a) feeling smart about my success or (b) feeling like a dumb cluck. I know...bad attitude
- I can resign at any time. No hard feelings either.
- I don't have to worry about someone walking away and letting time run out
- It feels light hearted, a breath of fresh air. No records as it's there and then gone.
- At first I wanted to see other players comments. But that can easily be abusive. Being a slow mover (I am an old guy) some players are idiots online. I really resent the adding time feature as it can be abused to show discontent with slow play even if in the guidelines of the time controls.
I may indeed go back to rated as Funkmaus suggests and do so with chat turned off.
I just want to add why I have liked Anonymous play although I have played Casual and Rated too:
1) I understand why people play rated as you get to play at your level mostly.
2) The rating system makes me feel bad about losing. Yes, I know it is there to adjust my opposition to my level. But for me it feels like having me either (a) feeling smart about my success or (b) feeling like a dumb cluck. I know...bad attitude
3) I can resign at any time. No hard feelings either.
4) I don't have to worry about someone walking away and letting time run out
5) It feels light hearted, a breath of fresh air. No records as it's there and then gone.
6) At first I wanted to see other players comments. But that can easily be abusive. Being a slow mover (I am an old guy) some players are idiots online. I really resent the adding time feature as it can be abused to show discontent with slow play even if in the guidelines of the time controls.
I may indeed go back to rated as Funkmaus suggests and do so with chat turned off.
Thanks for the comments so far. Please feel free to continue.
Thanks for the comments so far. Please feel free to continue.
@SloHorse said in #4:
I just want to add why I have liked Anonymous play although I have played Casual and Rated too:
First of all, you do not have to explain yourself in the public forum. You obviously have your reasons. You are asking for comments in #5 so please allow me to address all your points.
- I understand why people play rated as you get to play at your level mostly.
100% true. It is no fun to get destroyed by people who are so much better than you that you wont even be able to learn from your mistakes since you do not understand their moves.
Same applies for people who are much weaker than you - you get nothing by beating someone who drops a piece each move, for example.
- The rating system makes me feel bad about losing. Yes, I know it is there to adjust my opposition to my level. But for me it feels like having me either (a) feeling smart about my success or (b) feeling like a dumb cluck. I know...bad attitude
Losing is losing, no-one feels good about it. But we can learn why it has happened, losing is an experience - the only way to get better. Let me copy your note: "remind yourself it is just a game" :-)
Rating is just an imaginary number - who do you want to impress with it. There will always be someone who is better and who is worse. Do not let that number influence the joy of playing a real game - playing for points feels completely wrong.
If you deserve a certain number, you will always be back.
- I can resign at any time. No hard feelings either.
Somehow... I cannot relate here at all since I can resign anytime I think I am lost or do not want to continue the fight.
- I don't have to worry about someone walking away and letting time run out
I thought that rather happens in those anon-games. In rated games we have an advanced system to track and punish those players who "rage-quit" with playbans and the duration of those is increasing on each new infraction.
- It feels light hearted, a breath of fresh air. No records as it's there and then gone.
Interesting way of thinking. It is like... you were never playing it. I like records so cannot relate as well.
- At first I wanted to see other players comments. But that can easily be abusive. Being a slow mover (I am an old guy) some players are idiots online. I really resent the adding time feature as it can be abused to show discontent with slow play even if in the guidelines of the time controls.
Please, do not take those insults to your heart and instantly report them. Consider yourself as winner twice: you won the game on the board and your rival has shown that they were hurt. Report-Block-MoveOn.
That being said, playing with chat turned off would be my advise for fast paced time controls - after all, we want to play chess and not be abused and there is absolutely nothing intense in 1+0 bullet - it is just... one game after another.
In classical or slow paced rapid there is a chance you can make a friend and analyze the game together - so why not keep the chat on?!
Last but not least - what means "I am an old guy" - Young is not an age! It is a feeling :-))
I may indeed go back to rated as Funkmaus suggests and do so with chat turned off.
Happy chessing, good skills and best of luck to you :-))
@SloHorse said in #4:
> I just want to add why I have liked Anonymous play although I have played Casual and Rated too:
First of all, you do not have to explain yourself in the public forum. You obviously have your reasons. You are asking for comments in #5 so please allow me to address all your points.
> 1) I understand why people play rated as you get to play at your level mostly.
100% true. It is no fun to get destroyed by people who are so much better than you that you wont even be able to learn from your mistakes since you do not understand their moves.
Same applies for people who are much weaker than you - you get nothing by beating someone who drops a piece each move, for example.
> 2) The rating system makes me feel bad about losing. Yes, I know it is there to adjust my opposition to my level. But for me it feels like having me either (a) feeling smart about my success or (b) feeling like a dumb cluck. I know...bad attitude
Losing is losing, no-one feels good about it. But we can learn why it has happened, losing is an experience - the only way to get better. Let me copy your note: "remind yourself it is just a game" :-)
Rating is just an imaginary number - who do you want to impress with it. There will always be someone who is better and who is worse. Do not let that number influence the joy of playing a real game - playing for points feels completely wrong.
If you deserve a certain number, you will always be back.
> 3) I can resign at any time. No hard feelings either.
Somehow... I cannot relate here at all since I can resign anytime I think I am lost or do not want to continue the fight.
> 4) I don't have to worry about someone walking away and letting time run out
I thought that rather happens in those anon-games. In rated games we have an advanced system to track and punish those players who "rage-quit" with playbans and the duration of those is increasing on each new infraction.
> 5) It feels light hearted, a breath of fresh air. No records as it's there and then gone.
Interesting way of thinking. It is like... you were never playing it. I like records so cannot relate as well.
> 6) At first I wanted to see other players comments. But that can easily be abusive. Being a slow mover (I am an old guy) some players are idiots online. I really resent the adding time feature as it can be abused to show discontent with slow play even if in the guidelines of the time controls.
Please, do not take those insults to your heart and instantly report them. Consider yourself as winner twice: you won the game on the board and your rival has shown that they were hurt. Report-Block-MoveOn.
That being said, playing with chat turned off would be my advise for fast paced time controls - after all, we want to play chess and not be abused and there is absolutely nothing intense in 1+0 bullet - it is just... one game after another.
In classical or slow paced rapid there is a chance you can make a friend and analyze the game together - so why not keep the chat on?!
Last but not least - what means "I am an old guy" - Young is not an age! It is a feeling :-))
> I may indeed go back to rated as Funkmaus suggests and do so with chat turned off.
Happy chessing, good skills and best of luck to you :-))
Thanks Funkmaus for your words of wisdom. :)
BTW, was wondering what Funkmaus means. So I looked it up and it seems to mean (in English) cordless mouse. Good one.
Thanks Funkmaus for your words of wisdom. :)
BTW, was wondering what Funkmaus means. So I looked it up and it seems to mean (in English) cordless mouse. Good one.
@SloHorse said in #1:
Question: at what point do you think there is no benefit in continuing a loosing position?
When there is no chance of at least drawing. If you genuinely think that you cant get anything going on, either because he is ahead on material or you just are trapped in a lost position and he is simply cutting any counterplay before it starts and you trust your opponent can convert, just resign.
There is no point of playing if there is not even hope. You will feel worst if you continue and he just squashes you like a bug.
Only when you have some counterplay or hopes for a draw is when you continue.
@SloHorse said in #1:
> Question: at what point do you think there is no benefit in continuing a loosing position?
When there is no chance of at least drawing. If you genuinely think that you cant get anything going on, either because he is ahead on material or you just are trapped in a lost position and he is simply cutting any counterplay before it starts and you trust your opponent can convert, just resign.
There is no point of playing if there is not even hope. You will feel worst if you continue and he just squashes you like a bug.
Only when you have some counterplay or hopes for a draw is when you continue.