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@ambrooks Tal's books are so popular because of his style of play... and beginners love such style... also explains why beginners love reading(or watching videos) about opening traps.... beginners love explosive play and cannot stand quiet or positional play
🙂 Apart from that though there are good players with "attacking" as their style of play... so who do they learn from if not from The Magician of Riga 😁

@ambrooks Tal's books are so popular because of his style of play... and beginners love such style... also explains why beginners love reading(or watching videos) about opening traps.... beginners love explosive play and cannot stand quiet or positional play 🙂 Apart from that though there are good players with "attacking" as their style of play... so who do they learn from if not from The Magician of Riga 😁

RamblinDave edited

#52

#35 - my point isn't that Dvoretsky was a weak player, it's that his strength as a competitive player wasn't the main reason that he was sought out as a teacher. Particularly given that his actual playing strength fell off over time as he devoted himself more to coaching and writing, but his reputation as a teacher only got better.

#44 it's not the idea that a book by the world champion is worth reading - of course it is! - it's the weirdly snobbish insistence that a book written by a stronger player is automatically a more useful book, for any level of reader, than one written by a weaker player. That a beginner can only be properly told to develop towards the centre, put rooks on open files and attack the base of a pawn chain by a world champion rather than a "mere" IM.

#35 - my point isn't that Dvoretsky was a weak player, it's that his strength as a competitive player wasn't the main reason that he was sought out as a teacher. Particularly given that his actual playing strength fell off over time as he devoted himself more to coaching and writing, but his reputation as a teacher only got better. #44 it's not the idea that a book by the world champion is worth reading - of course it is! - it's the weirdly snobbish insistence that a book written by a stronger player is automatically a more useful book, for any level of reader, than one written by a weaker player. That a beginner can only be properly told to develop towards the centre, put rooks on open files and attack the base of a pawn chain by a world champion rather than a "mere" IM.

ambrooks

#53

@king-Monti

" Apart from that though there are good players with "attacking" as their style of play... so who do they learn from if not from The Magician of Riga 😁"

I dunno. I've played through many classic games - I don't see anything special about Tal compared to other famous players.

I really don't get why there are so many people on chess forums such as this one who are so excited by Tal when there are so many other famous players who have the same kinds of combinations in their games.

@king-Monti " Apart from that though there are good players with "attacking" as their style of play... so who do they learn from if not from The Magician of Riga 😁" I dunno. I've played through many classic games - I don't see anything special about Tal compared to other famous players. I really don't get why there are so many people on chess forums such as this one who are so excited by Tal when there are so many other famous players who have the same kinds of combinations in their games.

Tae7

#54

#52 I completely agree. I was just saying that #9 did not imply that books written by stronger players are always more useful than ones written by relatively weaker players.I feel like some people took it the wrong way which resulted in unnecessary arguments lol...

Lord-Damianson

#55

@Tae7 I don't know but he's implied that more times than I can remember. That was why @king-Monti started with "you're at it again"

Tae7

#56

@Lord-Damianson Oh lol...I just skim read most of the posts ;)

NM MrPushwood edited

#57

You guys are kooks. The Life & Games of Mikhail Tal is the greatest book that ever lived.

And Tal-Botvinnik 1960 is maybe in second place.

You guys are kooks. The Life & Games of Mikhail Tal is the greatest book that ever lived. And Tal-Botvinnik 1960 is maybe in second place.