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Lichess vs Chesscom Elo

#1

So I am a >2000 elo player on lichess (peak), usually hovering in 1850s range.

Joined chesscom recently and have struggled to crack 1500 in bullet! How much tougher is chesscom to lichess. One thing I have noticed is the lag and my clock just loses seconds and opponents gains seconds every move. So that obviously is a factor and I guess my Internet is slow and I am not blaming chesscom for that.

But have at times been dominated bt 1400s there too and felt like I didn’t know chess.

So thought of posting and asking

So I am a >2000 elo player on lichess (peak), usually hovering in 1850s range. Joined chesscom recently and have struggled to crack 1500 in bullet! How much tougher is chesscom to lichess. One thing I have noticed is the lag and my clock just loses seconds and opponents gains seconds every move. So that obviously is a factor and I guess my Internet is slow and I am not blaming chesscom for that. But have at times been dominated bt 1400s there too and felt like I didn’t know chess. So thought of posting and asking
#3

I have 1700 on chess com and 2000 lichess , it`s much harder to get point on chess com , even players with lou elo can crash you

I have 1700 on chess com and 2000 lichess , it`s much harder to get point on chess com , even players with lou elo can crash you
#4

First of all, it's not Elo. Elo is a completely different system, used by FIDE. Both sites use Glicko rating system, chesscom v1, I believe, and Lichess v2.
Secondly, you cannot compare them. Different starting ratings, different pools of players and so on.
Just because it says rating and it's a number doesn't mean the numbers are the same or supposed to be the same. They are not.

First of all, it's not Elo. Elo is a completely different system, used by FIDE. Both sites use Glicko rating system, chesscom v1, I believe, and Lichess v2. Secondly, you cannot compare them. Different starting ratings, different pools of players and so on. Just because it says rating and it's a number doesn't mean the numbers are the same or supposed to be the same. They are not.
#5

On lichess close half players <1300 elo use a bot (just watch them game and compare in irl level). I rport 5/6 players every day with screen (and some hack no legal for see them screen that i used in mmo when people come for menace et want hack the server and yes they cheat but it's my problem, i must "give" nothing at nobody).
I win between 40 and 60 points of compensation, every day. I created my account in august and i never got less. I lose thse point either because i lose my game (normal) or met another bot.

I beat some players at 1800 and 1500 elo irl and never they played as perfect as these 800 elo. Tonigh i met 5 players, reported 4 with screens and one with 41 better step on 42, elo chess.com 1150....

Tell me what you want, if we must wait that a judge tell "this a proov" we will stop no one in the life (we have not the real proov about ben laden on 11/09).

We must know chess.com isn't a plateform for play but for get benefit. Cheaters isn't problem, for get money you have to focus on the quantity and not the quality (as like lichess). Them partnairs with clash royal (one of the big pay to win in the market) it's a "proov", more 50% of players cheat (and i did then i know how recognize, pay to win have a minimum legal about security, the first is win money) then they get this communauty.

Already a website who is proud to write it banned more millions account for cheat, 20% of top100 of the world (3 of top 15) means every thing. A compagny who has these stats and want recruit me i don't go.

And maybe i will be ban for that but on google you write "cheat on chess.com" you have a lot of tutorial and i tryed someones and at least 2 are ok and if are no idiot in play full with that you are not ban. Then safe are close of 0.

About me i continue to play on this website only for work my open, gambit, try somethings and i prefer play in focus a performance on Lichess against true players (i took my first licence irl on september then i want be get ready).

And for people why i see cheaters, why i lookign for => I play in mmo for 25 years ago. I create some server (Minecraft), have been Masterguild to 80/120 players. It's simply, cheaters is cancer/toxic, if you leave do them, good players go another where (can't play, toxic chat etc) and someones menace (and can do it) to destroy severals years of work.
Then the solution it's learn to reconise, understand how they work and react action before them (it's long and bored).

On lichess close half players <1300 elo use a bot (just watch them game and compare in irl level). I rport 5/6 players every day with screen (and some hack no legal for see them screen that i used in mmo when people come for menace et want hack the server and yes they cheat but it's my problem, i must "give" nothing at nobody). I win between 40 and 60 points of compensation, every day. I created my account in august and i never got less. I lose thse point either because i lose my game (normal) or met another bot. I beat some players at 1800 and 1500 elo irl and never they played as perfect as these 800 elo. Tonigh i met 5 players, reported 4 with screens and one with 41 better step on 42, elo chess.com 1150.... Tell me what you want, if we must wait that a judge tell "this a proov" we will stop no one in the life (we have not the real proov about ben laden on 11/09). We must know chess.com isn't a plateform for play but for get benefit. Cheaters isn't problem, for get money you have to focus on the quantity and not the quality (as like lichess). Them partnairs with clash royal (one of the big pay to win in the market) it's a "proov", more 50% of players cheat (and i did then i know how recognize, pay to win have a minimum legal about security, the first is win money) then they get this communauty. Already a website who is proud to write it banned more millions account for cheat, 20% of top100 of the world (3 of top 15) means every thing. A compagny who has these stats and want recruit me i don't go. And maybe i will be ban for that but on google you write "cheat on chess.com" you have a lot of tutorial and i tryed someones and at least 2 are ok and if are no idiot in play full with that you are not ban. Then safe are close of 0. About me i continue to play on this website only for work my open, gambit, try somethings and i prefer play in focus a performance on Lichess against true players (i took my first licence irl on september then i want be get ready). And for people why i see cheaters, why i lookign for => I play in mmo for 25 years ago. I create some server (Minecraft), have been Masterguild to 80/120 players. It's simply, cheaters is cancer/toxic, if you leave do them, good players go another where (can't play, toxic chat etc) and someones menace (and can do it) to destroy severals years of work. Then the solution it's learn to reconise, understand how they work and react action before them (it's long and bored).
#6

That's interesting.. seeing as how I had to go back 2 months in your history to find even one banned opponent. I'm not going further.. your propaganda is heard and rejected. @Ecamvelo

That's interesting.. seeing as how I had to go back 2 months in your history to find even one banned opponent. I'm not going further.. your propaganda is heard and rejected. @Ecamvelo
#7

I bet somebody scolds you now, for asking a question that has been asked many times already. They may even close your topic for that reason.

But the question keeps getting asked because it is a good one.

I reckon chess.com rapid is about 400 pts lower than lichess classical, but chess.com rapid is also irrelevant because it includes everything from 10/0 to 60/0 and likely the vast majority of games are faster ones.

Lichess is an online chess club; chess.com is an online business.

I bet somebody scolds you now, for asking a question that has been asked many times already. They may even close your topic for that reason. But the question keeps getting asked because it is a good one. I reckon chess.com rapid is about 400 pts lower than lichess classical, but chess.com rapid is also irrelevant because it includes everything from 10/0 to 60/0 and likely the vast majority of games are faster ones. Lichess is an online chess club; chess.com is an online business.
#8

@Ecamvelo said in #5:

On lichess close half players <1300 elo use a bot (just watch them game and compare in irl level).

This is obviously not true.

I rport 5/6 players every day with screen (and some hack no legal for see them screen that i used in mmo when people come for menace et want hack the server and yes they cheat but it's my problem, i must "give" nothing at nobody).

No idea what you were trying to say in the second part here and frankly the rest of the post as well, but you haven't reported anyone for cheating.
If you wish to submit a report you can do this via https://lichess.org/report

@Ecamvelo said in #5: > On lichess close half players <1300 elo use a bot (just watch them game and compare in irl level). This is obviously not true. > I rport 5/6 players every day with screen (and some hack no legal for see them screen that i used in mmo when people come for menace et want hack the server and yes they cheat but it's my problem, i must "give" nothing at nobody). No idea what you were trying to say in the second part here and frankly the rest of the post as well, but you haven't reported anyone for cheating. If you wish to submit a report you can do this via https://lichess.org/report
#9

@dogsnob said in #7:

I reckon chess.com rapid is about 400 pts lower than lichess classical, but chess.com rapid is also irrelevant because it includes everything from 10/0 to 60/0 and likely the vast majority of games are faster ones.

Ratings are different, you cannot compare them. You can compare apples to apples, it wouldn't make sense to compare them to oranges. Yes, it's a rating and yes, it's a number there, but the numbers are not the same and they are not supposed to be the same. You can only compare it to other players in the same player pool, in other words, if it's a rapid rating here on Lichess, you can only compare it to other players playing rapid here.

@dogsnob said in #7: > I reckon chess.com rapid is about 400 pts lower than lichess classical, but chess.com rapid is also irrelevant because it includes everything from 10/0 to 60/0 and likely the vast majority of games are faster ones. Ratings are different, you cannot compare them. You can compare apples to apples, it wouldn't make sense to compare them to oranges. Yes, it's a rating and yes, it's a number there, but the numbers are not the same and they are not supposed to be the same. You can only compare it to other players in the same player pool, in other words, if it's a rapid rating here on Lichess, you can only compare it to other players playing rapid here.

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