Can anyone send where they learned this?
I have seen many videos from multiple GMs. I somewhat get the concepts but can’t apply them.
Literally tried for hours now through lichess’ trainer. I cant seem to get the king on the border or move it in the right corner at all.
Can anyone send where they learned this?
I have seen many videos from multiple GMs. I somewhat get the concepts but can’t apply them.
Literally tried for hours now through lichess’ trainer. I cant seem to get the king on the border or move it in the right corner at all.
If king escape in opposite corner, easy peasy. If not, Deletang method I think is called. I learned from books.
If king escape in opposite corner, easy peasy. If not, Deletang method I think is called. I learned from books.
I had to break it down into three steps: (1) corralling the king as it tries to run to the wrong corner, (2) driving it along the edge of the board to the right corner, and (3) delivering mate. I think it's best to work backward. Believe it or not, one of the best videos I watched was by Danny Rensch, because he explains it backward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur3mVl0bdog
These are two more good positions to practice the final steps against the computer:
Black king on b2. White king on b3, white bishop on a3, white knight on d1. White to move.
Black king on a8. White king on b6, white bishop on e6, white knight on d4. White to move.
These are two more good positions to practice the zig-zag or W-maneuver, where you drive the king from the wrong corner to the right corner:
Black king on h8. White king on f6, white bishop on f5, white knight on f4. White to move.
Black king on f8. White king on f6, white bishop on f5, white knight on f7. White to move.
Chasing the king into the wrong corner isn't that hard, because it's where your opponent will try to go if you keep them out of the center. There are so many possible starting positions that you can just set up the pieces anywhere and practice, but honestly it's the W-maneuver that's most interesting and useful to learn.
I had to break it down into three steps: (1) corralling the king as it tries to run to the wrong corner, (2) driving it along the edge of the board to the right corner, and (3) delivering mate. I think it's best to work backward. Believe it or not, one of the best videos I watched was by Danny Rensch, because he explains it backward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur3mVl0bdog
These are two more good positions to practice the final steps against the computer:
Black king on b2. White king on b3, white bishop on a3, white knight on d1. White to move.
Black king on a8. White king on b6, white bishop on e6, white knight on d4. White to move.
These are two more good positions to practice the zig-zag or W-maneuver, where you drive the king from the wrong corner to the right corner:
Black king on h8. White king on f6, white bishop on f5, white knight on f4. White to move.
Black king on f8. White king on f6, white bishop on f5, white knight on f7. White to move.
Chasing the king into the wrong corner isn't that hard, because it's where your opponent will try to go if you keep them out of the center. There are so many possible starting positions that you can just set up the pieces anywhere and practice, but honestly it's the W-maneuver that's most interesting and useful to learn.
Just setup opposite corner position and practice with engine. My method differ delivering mate from Rensch. Bishop end next to king trapping opposite king and knight is free to go anywhere is needed. 6k1/8/6KB/5N2/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
Just setup opposite corner position and practice with engine. My method differ delivering mate from Rensch. Bishop end next to king trapping opposite king and knight is free to go anywhere is needed. 6k1/8/6KB/5N2/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
This is Excatky what you should be DOING ... Next take a long Look at Rook and pawn Endings from the book Rook endings by Smyslov ( Former WC Champion) & Levenfish ... then at the End of the First Chapter ir reads DO it AGAIN ! ,,, Work yourself a bit' & be better than those whu just give you extra wood for not enough ... Learning Defence & Endings will net you many points ... One book you should read is Endgame Strategy ny Mikhail Sherevesky it shows an approach mentally to Endings >>> The Art Of Defence in Chess by Soltis is the only book by Soltis I can reccomend but it's good & Original >>> I heard there is a new Endgame stragety revised Video available from Chessable but you can download these originals probably for free but maybe not at The Internet Archive which has many tatical & other Chess Books like How to Crush your Opponents etcetc @TonyKoIarek
This is Excatky what you should be DOING ... Next take a long Look at Rook and pawn Endings from the book Rook endings by Smyslov ( Former WC Champion) & Levenfish ... then at the End of the First Chapter ir reads DO it AGAIN ! ,,, Work yourself a bit' & be better than those whu just give you extra wood for not enough ... Learning Defence & Endings will net you many points ... One book you should read is Endgame Strategy ny Mikhail Sherevesky it shows an approach mentally to Endings >>> The Art Of Defence in Chess by Soltis is the only book by Soltis I can reccomend but it's good & Original >>> I heard there is a new Endgame stragety revised Video available from Chessable but you can download these originals probably for free but maybe not at The Internet Archive which has many tatical & other Chess Books like How to Crush your Opponents etcetc @TonyKoIarek
@TonyKoIarek said in #1:
Can anyone send where they learned this?
I have seen many videos from multiple GMs. I somewhat get the concepts but can’t apply them.
Literally tried for hours now through lichess’ trainer. I cant seem to get the king on the border or move it in the right corner at all.
Dont bother. It is quite hard, but there is a method. However, the collective experience says that its a waste of time to study it. Its hard to maintain the concept fresh, but you dont encounter the ending at all.
I have over 4k games in the server, i still have not reached that ending except twice, which i provoked on purpose (i could have promoted to any piece instead of a knight or bishop) just to practice it.
Legend says that very few people get that ending at least once in their lifetime.
@TonyKoIarek said in #1:
> Can anyone send where they learned this?
> I have seen many videos from multiple GMs. I somewhat get the concepts but can’t apply them.
> Literally tried for hours now through lichess’ trainer. I cant seem to get the king on the border or move it in the right corner at all.
Dont bother. It is quite hard, but there is a method. However, the collective experience says that its a waste of time to study it. Its hard to maintain the concept fresh, but you dont encounter the ending at all.
I have over 4k games in the server, i still have not reached that ending except twice, which i provoked on purpose (i could have promoted to any piece instead of a knight or bishop) just to practice it.
Legend says that very few people get that ending at least once in their lifetime.
I have learned this from YouTube video by Andras Toth
Also it is well explained in other books.
I have learned this from YouTube video by Andras Toth
Also it is well explained in other books.
2 important hints were:
- The knight controls the opposite color squares of your bishop ( them you can mimic 2 bishops ).
- The famous w maneuver and ot starts with controlling the wrong corner by your knight
2 important hints were:
1. The knight controls the opposite color squares of your bishop ( them you can mimic 2 bishops ).
2. The famous w maneuver and ot starts with controlling the wrong corner by your knight