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It's possible to cheat by fast games

It is possible to cheat by fast games

The proof http://fr.lichess.org/z2qimf1r

I used a program to test if players could also quick cheat.

(After saving the tower, I'm not playing in the program.)

I confirm that he was cheating too.

After 2 min may be, it is less easy to cheat but it is possible I'm sure.

So like how the story goes that fast players do not cheat ... you know what I think now, huh?

It is possible to cheat by fast games The proof http://fr.lichess.org/z2qimf1r I used a program to test if players could also quick cheat. (After saving the tower, I'm not playing in the program.) I confirm that he was cheating too. After 2 min may be, it is less easy to cheat but it is possible I'm sure. So like how the story goes that fast players do not cheat ... you know what I think now, huh?

Sorry I didn't read what I wrote.

After taking the tower, I stopped playing with the program.

Below 2 minutes or with 2 minutes

Sorry I didn't read what I wrote. *After taking the tower, I stopped playing with the program.* *Below 2 minutes or with 2 minutes*

I've had people try to cheat at 2 0 too. They mostly flag.

3 0 is more likely. 1 0 is impossible unless the program is somehow hooked up directly to system; in which case it would also be obvious as move times would be nearly identical or immediate.

question tho, how did you "confirm" he was cheating?

I've had people try to cheat at 2 0 too. They mostly flag. 3 0 is more likely. 1 0 is impossible unless the program is somehow hooked up directly to system; in which case it would also be obvious as move times would be nearly identical or immediate. question tho, how did you "confirm" he was cheating?

Because my program indicated the shots most likely
the opponent after each of my shots and they always corresponded to the exception
end as I said, when I was little time, and therefore thought
he could gain time.
I saw that he had stopped using the program, I decided to do the same,
I had to gain 10 seconds late playing 1 shot per second.

As such, 8.Qxd8, the obvious answer is Txd8, and there has at least 5 seconds to react, whereas normally you put 1-2 sec.

This is a good way of knowing if the opponent is cheating, so if the opponent made ​​little quick shots, and he does that after 6 sec, is that cheating. ..

Because my program indicated the shots most likely the opponent after each of my shots and they always corresponded to the exception end as I said, when I was little time, and therefore thought he could gain time. I saw that he had stopped using the program, I decided to do the same, I had to gain 10 seconds late playing 1 shot per second. As such, 8.Qxd8, the obvious answer is Txd8, and there has at least 5 seconds to react, whereas normally you put 1-2 sec. This is a good way of knowing if the opponent is cheating, so if the opponent made ​​little quick shots, and he does that after 6 sec, is that cheating. ..

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That is a good point. I've looked over a handful of his other games and in nearly every case his fastest moves were 6,7 seconds

I think in one game or two he had a 5 second move...

That is a good point. I've looked over a handful of his other games and in nearly every case his fastest moves were 6,7 seconds I think in one game or two he had a 5 second move...

this is one of his only losses on the board:

http://en.lichess.org/analyse/tnfa9cqa/black
http://en.lichess.org/tnfa9cqa/stats

notice around move 36, 37 when he starts speeding up (presumably in time trouble) his game falls apart (hangs 2 pieces in quick succession after playing a near flawless game)

another loss on the board worth mentioning:

http://en.lichess.org/analyse/kq8sjwza

Cecil is 210-3-2. he doesn't play quick games.

I would like to see how both of these players do in a 1 0 or 2 0 game (preferably 1 0). It would also be interesting to see how these players would do against a computer in a long game.......

this is one of his only losses on the board: http://en.lichess.org/analyse/tnfa9cqa/black http://en.lichess.org/tnfa9cqa/stats notice around move 36, 37 when he starts speeding up (presumably in time trouble) his game falls apart (hangs 2 pieces in quick succession after playing a near flawless game) another loss on the board worth mentioning: http://en.lichess.org/analyse/kq8sjwza Cecil is 210-3-2. he doesn't play quick games. I would like to see how both of these players do in a 1 0 or 2 0 game (preferably 1 0). It would also be interesting to see how these players would do against a computer in a long game.......

Cecil doesn't cheat (at least during the games i've played against him), and if you see the stats of the game, you can see that he played lots of moves in 2 sec...he told me he is not far from 2200
elo, fact which can explain certain things

And even if chaters avoid very fast games, it doesn't mean than any good player playing only long games is a bot...fight against cheaters is a good thing however we have to accept that very good
players can come here and play without accuse them of cheating after every gam.

Cecil doesn't cheat (at least during the games i've played against him), and if you see the stats of the game, you can see that he played lots of moves in 2 sec...he told me he is not far from 2200 elo, fact which can explain certain things And even if chaters avoid very fast games, it doesn't mean than any good player playing only long games is a bot...fight against cheaters is a good thing however we have to accept that very good players can come here and play without accuse them of cheating after every gam.

He does play a lot of quick moves, and that is reassuring, altho not impossible for somebody using a computer. All one need do is consult the move chain and play a couple or so in a row without
consulting back every move.

I'm still not convinced either way and I don't think it is improper to consider the top ranked player with a 210-3-2 record who plays moderately long games.

It's not a judgement at this point, only a suspicion. Which is why it would be informative to see how he does against a random computer here or there. If he's not cheating the results will absolve
him.

He does play a lot of quick moves, and that is reassuring, altho not impossible for somebody using a computer. All one need do is consult the move chain and play a couple or so in a row without consulting back every move. I'm still not convinced either way and I don't think it is improper to consider the top ranked player with a 210-3-2 record who plays moderately long games. It's not a judgement at this point, only a suspicion. Which is why it would be informative to see how he does against a random computer here or there. If he's not cheating the results will absolve him.

If you do the moves slowly - then cheat? I'm with that in any case do not agree. 1 - 2 minutes is too little for such a clever game like chess. In most games, a 1 minute advantage does not win, and
win on time. It's not interesting, at least for me. I like to reflect on the moves, especially if you have time to do so. And when the enemy is stronger than you do even sure! Because each of its
course can be a major threat.

If you do the moves slowly - then cheat? I'm with that in any case do not agree. 1 - 2 minutes is too little for such a clever game like chess. In most games, a 1 minute advantage does not win, and win on time. It's not interesting, at least for me. I like to reflect on the moves, especially if you have time to do so. And when the enemy is stronger than you do even sure! Because each of its course can be a major threat.

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