Is online chess dead because of cheaters? • page 1/8 • General Chess Discussion • lichess.org

Is this just cheater against a cheater at a higher level lets say 2200+ ?

Lichess has ultra extra special mega giga hyper super duper smart way to counter this. If someone found out as a cheater, he/she will only play against cheater too.

hisokaxhunter

U should ask hans

toxic_internet

Dead? Dunno.

Threatened? Definitely.

Who wants to play against a stacked deck?

Dead? Dunno. Threatened? Definitely. Who wants to play against a stacked deck?

Puzzleandlearning

@Gravija said in #2:

Lichess has ultra extra special mega giga hyper super duper smart way to counter this. If someone found out as a cheater, he/she will only play against cheater too.

Really ??? If thats true then that cool

@Gravija said in #2: > Lichess has ultra extra special mega giga hyper super duper smart way to counter this. If someone found out as a cheater, he/she will only play against cheater too. Really ??? If thats true then that cool

Cedur216

Is online chess dead? Hold my chesscom servers

Bonitta

Yes
Online dating is completely dead
Uwu

Yes Online dating is completely dead Uwu

Autofill

There are much more legit players than cheaters

Onyx_Chess edited

#10

Don't listen to people who want to promote the narrative that "cheating in chess is rampant and out of control".
Most of them don't understand how much damage these kinds of posts produce, and many of them have given themselves reasons to be hyper-alert and believe that "cheaters are everywhere".
For years, Lichess would often interrupt the kinds of threads, where OPs would complain about cheating, by exposing how many people the OP was responsible for successfully reporting. I think that one of them, once, successfully reported one person. All of the many many others failed to report any suspicious accounts. This fact tells us all that we need to know about the people who beat this drum the loudest.
Depending on who you ask and when the research and testing was done, the amount of cheaters at lichess.org are somewhere around 1%-3% in the classical time controls with ratings of >2000; however, that number seems to jump at the lower the ratings and at shorter time controls. Depending who you ask, cheating at chesscom is much higher to the tune of 5%-8%.

This is because everything that Lichess does is motivated out of "What's best for the chess community?" and they were actively trying to nullify cheating long before chesscom realized that they should appear to care about cheaters if they're to maximize profits.

There is substantial and substantiated empirical evidence that chesscom:
a) suspends/investigates/bans accounts that aren't actually cheating
b) allows actual cheaters to cheat (this was already verified long before the latest debacle)

Also, when chesscom announced that "We have the best anti-cheat on the planet," cheaters, everywhere, turned their hats on backwards and said, "OK. Game on. I'll never break 2000, but I can see myself having fun taking on 'the best anti-cheat in the world'.

So, all-in-all, Lichess has set themselves up to be the best cheat-free experience.

The best advice surrounding the matter of people using silicon assistance is found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Wiok4H1RY

1. Don't listen to people who want to promote the narrative that "cheating in chess is rampant and out of control". Most of them don't understand how much damage these kinds of posts produce, and many of them have given themselves reasons to be hyper-alert and believe that "cheaters are everywhere". 2. For years, Lichess would often interrupt the kinds of threads, where OPs would complain about cheating, by exposing how many people the OP was responsible for successfully reporting. I think that one of them, once, successfully reported one person. All of the many many others failed to report any suspicious accounts. This fact tells us all that we need to know about the people who beat this drum the loudest. 3. Depending on who you ask and when the research and testing was done, the amount of cheaters at lichess.org are somewhere around 1%-3% in the classical time controls with ratings of >2000; however, that number seems to jump at the lower the ratings and at shorter time controls. Depending who you ask, cheating at chesscom is much higher to the tune of 5%-8%. This is because everything that Lichess does is motivated out of "What's best for the chess community?" and they were actively trying to nullify cheating long before chesscom realized that they should appear to care about cheaters if they're to maximize profits. There is substantial and substantiated empirical evidence that chesscom: a) suspends/investigates/bans accounts that aren't actually cheating b) allows actual cheaters to cheat (this was already verified long before the latest debacle) Also, when chesscom announced that "We have the best anti-cheat on the planet," cheaters, everywhere, turned their hats on backwards and said, "OK. Game on. I'll never break 2000, but I can see myself having fun taking on 'the best anti-cheat in the world'. So, all-in-all, Lichess has set themselves up to be the best cheat-free experience. 4. The best advice surrounding the matter of people using silicon assistance is found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Wiok4H1RY