I don’t know what to do, I’m like loosing 90% of my unrated games, it’s frustrating and annoying and I’m not finding solid ways to improve. When I analyze my games I’m nearly always behind like 2-3 points on the eval bar after 15 or so moves. I need actually helpful tips. I need helpful tips.
Stockfish does not like grandmaster moves in textbook attacks, no matter how beautiful. It rates many of them as mistakes or at least inaccuracies, and has refutations or better moves. It escapes resigned positions that looked like mate in 2, playing on 20 more moves, or winning if you don't play perfectly.
Grandmasters say Stockfish is wrong in several positions. And some it is. But they lose every game, even the ones they thought they had the better position. It is rated 900-1300 points higher than them.
It checkmates me in 22 moves or less, depending how long I think.
Stockfish says most book openings are mistakes or inaccuracies. The reason grandmasters don't play its preferred openings is they are very sharp, where any mistake results in quick loss, and the correct moves are difficult to find.
So don't worry if it evals you at -2 early in the opening. You'll get the same result if you choose moves from MCO. Probably Stockfish will leave book before you do and checkmate you soon afterward. Welcome to the club.
I still play against it full strength because I like seeing my blunders. Once I find them, I can use the back arrow.
Give yourself rook odds. It will likely still win. Even with queen odds.
Magnus Carlson won't play against computers since they always win.
I've seen 2000 rated players get checkmated in 22 moves without even seeing the mate coming. Surprise mate.
Nakamura got all his pieces pushed back to the first rank soon out of the opening.
The rating points are real, and humans won't catch up with it.
@Cataroid
Because Stockfish' rating is 3500, and can calculate more than 30 moves, so it's sensitive against inaccuracy, mistake, blunder. At least you didn't hanging your pieces right?
If you didn't hanging your pieces, then high possibility your position become worse, or you give free tempo to your opponent or miss tactic or give chance to your opponent to do tactic/ improve his/her position.
If you post your game in forum Game Analysis, we can help analyze your game.
@Chesserroo2 said in #2:
> So don't worry if it evals you at -2 early in the opening. You'll get the same result if you choose moves from MCO. Probably Stockfish will leave book before you do and checkmate you soon afterward. Welcome to the club.
Sadly though it’s very obvious that I’m getting dominated nearly every game, -2 then proceeds to shoot up to -10 in near end games. I don’t think stockfish is wrong, when I feel like I’m playing good (which is rare) and I check the analysis post-game stockfish will most likely say its a couple of points up for me.
You just joined on the 8th and was assigned the average rating of 1500. If it so happens that your true chess talent is significantly below 1500 then you are going to lose a lot of games. Additionally in losing those games you may be inclined to also tilt and lose even more.
My advice is always to have an alternative to playing, especially if you are playing short duration formats.
I would recommend Puzzle Streak as a simple way to slowly improve the standard of your play.
You should use such games you do play to determine areas for improvement, just one area may be sufficient for the time being. The vast number of people will not improve by just by playing, they need to add in training sessions of some form to advance, usually slowly.
@Cataroid said in #1:
> I don’t know what to do, I’m like loosing 90% of my unrated games, it’s frustrating and annoying and I’m not finding solid ways to improve. When I analyze my games I’m nearly always behind like 2-3 points on the eval bar after 15 or so moves. I need actually helpful tips. I need helpful tips.
Hi, in my opinion...
1) ...you shoud play players at about 1400-1500 lichess rating, that seems to suit you best at the moment. Everything above is just a pain and leads to frustration. If you beat the 1500 regularly, then proceed to 1550-1650.
2) you should join a chessclub and learn to play... well... chess (with others on your level). You need much more input from others, else you will not see anything (new) on the board.
Have fun!
@Cataroid said in #5:
> Sadly though it’s very obvious that I’m getting dominated nearly every game, -2 then proceeds to shoot up to -10 in near end games. I don’t think stockfish is wrong, when I feel like I’m playing good (which is rare) and I check the analysis post-game stockfish will most likely say its a couple of points up for me.
If you make it to the endgame against Stockfish full strength, that is impressive. I get mated in the opening every time. Most GMs are crushed soon too.
I gotta ask, why even play against stockfish level 8 at this point? If you want to keep playing the engine, I'd suggest starting at maybe level 4 or 5 and see if you can consistently compete/win there. A quick glance at some of your games reveals a lot of missed basic tactics - pins and skewers in particular. So maybe invest a significant amount of time in the tactics area (puzzles for example).
Play some rated games against the maia bots and humans in the 1000-1500 range, figure out your current level of competition, and go from there. I found that playing rated games made me focus more intensely since there is a penalty for losing.
At the lower levels stockfish will give you "chances" like a human opponent would. At level 8, that won't happen and will just lead to frustration...IMO of course.
"Tips" aren't going to do you much good (this ain't tic-tac-toe). Maybe you should read a few books on strategy and that sort of thing.
Oh yeah, and stop playing bullet! If you're having trouble coming up with good moves, try taking some time over it.
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