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How is it possible for a player to have lowest rating 800 and highest 2200+?

#11

@teerdurchzogen You dont understand my point. Starting from 800 and reaching 2000+ takes longer. Maybe he is very good and if he started at 1500, he probably would have done this with only a few games. It would have been boring for him. So he decided to start at 800, so that it will take longer

@teerdurchzogen You dont understand my point. Starting from 800 and reaching 2000+ takes longer. Maybe he is very good and if he started at 1500, he probably would have done this with only a few games. It would have been boring for him. So he decided to start at 800, so that it will take longer
#13

@braunegefahr So he prolonged his boredem? And additionally bored many others???

@braunegefahr So he prolonged his boredem? And additionally bored many others???
#14

@braunegefahr I understand your point, I just disagree. Sandbaggers, and this is my opinion, don't do it for the challenge, they do it because they feel powerful crushing beginners. They enter their tournaments, that were designed to be spaces for beginners only, and feel good winning them easily. Basically they are by no means better than cheaters, as in both instances one player has the disadvantage of playing against an OP opponent, who mimics (by rating) to be of equal strenght. I don't worry too much about sandbaggers (and cheaters) normally, but you justifying their dishonourable behaviour by saying they (or even some of them) would do it for the challenge is just plain ridiculous.

@braunegefahr I understand your point, I just disagree. Sandbaggers, and this is my opinion, don't do it for the challenge, they do it because they feel powerful crushing beginners. They enter their tournaments, that were designed to be spaces for beginners only, and feel good winning them easily. Basically they are by no means better than cheaters, as in both instances one player has the disadvantage of playing against an OP opponent, who mimics (by rating) to be of equal strenght. I don't worry too much about sandbaggers (and cheaters) normally, but you justifying their dishonourable behaviour by saying they (or even some of them) would do it for the challenge is just plain ridiculous.
#15

it's called trolling I do sometimes report : troll

it's called trolling I do sometimes report : troll
#16

maybe they are just grandmasters by heart? who knows

maybe they are just grandmasters by heart? who knows
#17

@teerdurchzogen Here you generalize. I checked this guys account, and he immediately went down to 800, then increased. He never participated in beginner tournaments, when he was so low rated. Also if he was a sandbagger, he would repeat this process of falling down and then increasing over and over again. But since he once got his 2000+, he didnt drop down again, so its more likely he just wanted to start at 800, for whatever reason. I dont see anything suspicious with him in recent games. It was just the beginning of dropping to 800 and then increasing. Dont judge him when you did not even checked his account

@teerdurchzogen Here you generalize. I checked this guys account, and he immediately went down to 800, then increased. He never participated in beginner tournaments, when he was so low rated. Also if he was a sandbagger, he would repeat this process of falling down and then increasing over and over again. But since he once got his 2000+, he didnt drop down again, so its more likely he just wanted to start at 800, for whatever reason. I dont see anything suspicious with him in recent games. It was just the beginning of dropping to 800 and then increasing. Dont judge him when you did not even checked his account
#19

@braunegefahr I indeed generalized, but still don't see the challenging part of the challenge, tbh. It's real rating they are taking of their opponents and it's not too much different of playing against a computer, when actually people want to play against people. Besides that it's simply forbidden to sandbag, and it is sandbagging, even if they only do it in the beginning. There is a streamer you might know, Levy Rozman, who is not exactly doing a speedrun, but something similar on chess com, where he got a very low rated account set up by chess com staff and is officially allowed to do this "challenge". He does it for educational purposes, though, streaming and talking about the games, making educational youtube videos out of it; but, crucial: Staff knows about it and every player losing to Levy will get a full refund of the points he lost to him. This way it's honourable and it's actually both entertaining and instructional content. Just doing it without permission of staff and for the fun of crushing much weaker opponents: not okay.

@braunegefahr I indeed generalized, but still don't see the challenging part of the challenge, tbh. It's real rating they are taking of their opponents and it's not too much different of playing against a computer, when actually people want to play against people. Besides that it's simply forbidden to sandbag, and it is sandbagging, even if they only do it in the beginning. There is a streamer you might know, Levy Rozman, who is not exactly doing a speedrun, but something similar on chess com, where he got a very low rated account set up by chess com staff and is officially allowed to do this "challenge". He does it for educational purposes, though, streaming and talking about the games, making educational youtube videos out of it; but, crucial: Staff knows about it and every player losing to Levy will get a full refund of the points he lost to him. This way it's honourable and it's actually both entertaining and instructional content. Just doing it without permission of staff and for the fun of crushing much weaker opponents: not okay.

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