How do some people premove so quick / is there multi-premove? • page 1/1 • General Chess Discussion • lichess.org

I find often in time scrambles I am way, way slower than my opponent, and I just can't understand it if they are also playing with single premove like I am.

e.g. I just had a game where I had two connected pawns, and a knight, to my opponents lone king, and starting this endgame with ~35 seconds to my opponent's 7 seconds. His clock stayed at 7 seconds for some 6 moves, which I could understand on chess.com with multi premove, but here on lichess, with single premove, I would not be able to move that quickly on an analysis board with no opponent.

Even throwing in checks didn't seem to help, so is there something to do with how it syncs time?

I don't want to sound like a sore loser -- if the answer is I'm just hella slow, then fine, but at the moment it just seems weird.

I find often in time scrambles I am way, way slower than my opponent, and I just can't understand it if they are also playing with single premove like I am. e.g. I just had a game where I had two connected pawns, and a knight, to my opponents lone king, and starting this endgame with ~35 seconds to my opponent's 7 seconds. His clock stayed at 7 seconds for some 6 moves, which I could understand on chess.com with multi premove, but here on lichess, with single premove, I would not be able to move that quickly on an analysis board with no opponent. Even throwing in checks didn't seem to help, so is there something to do with how it syncs time? I don't want to sound like a sore loser -- if the answer is I'm just hella slow, then fine, but at the moment it just seems weird.

Greek_GOD11

#2

No multi-premove. They are just quick.

crtex

#3

6 pre-moves with no time used is nothing tbh, i have seen fast players do like 20+ in winning positions without using any time. I myself can easily use 0 time if the position is obvious and the opponent takes more than a split second to move.

Yes it is single premove and it also uses 0 time. On chesscom it uses 0.1s minimum so they can't use 0 time there

6 pre-moves with no time used is nothing tbh, i have seen fast players do like 20+ in winning positions without using any time. I myself can easily use 0 time if the position is obvious and the opponent takes more than a split second to move. Yes it is single premove and it also uses 0 time. On chesscom it uses 0.1s minimum so they can't use 0 time there

crtex

#4

Either it's something with your ping or you do move very slowly in time scrambles. You could benefit a lot from 1s increment, if you could get flagged in a position like this.

https://lichess.org/RmCakNhI/black#129

Either it's something with your ping or you do move very slowly in time scrambles. You could benefit a lot from 1s increment, if you could get flagged in a position like this. https://lichess.org/RmCakNhI/black#129

TsetseRoar edited

#5

Yeah it might be my ping. If I wanted to just premove a single pawn advancing down a file I wouldn't be able to do it as quickly as my opponent is moving here. In fact, looking at the game, it's more than I thought: 8 moves played at 0:08.

Why did you give my op a thumbs down @mrbasso?

Yeah it might be my ping. If I wanted to just premove a single pawn advancing down a file I wouldn't be able to do it as quickly as my opponent is moving here. In fact, looking at the game, it's more than I thought: 8 moves played at 0:08. Why did you give my op a thumbs down @mrbasso?

mrbasso

#6

Obviously King premoves can be done very quickly if your pointer is already on the King. The King can only move to a square nearby after all.

Checks certainly do not help in this special case since the King moves anyway.
Checks can be very annoying in time scramble but only if opponent needs to move with other pieces.

Obviously King premoves can be done very quickly if your pointer is already on the King. The King can only move to a square nearby after all. Checks certainly do not help in this special case since the King moves anyway. Checks can be very annoying in time scramble but only if opponent needs to move with other pieces.

CrazyRebecca97

#7

@TsetseRoar

Why some bullet and ultrabullet players are so quick with premoves?

Possibly it's because they have turned off mouse acceleration.

https://www.autonomous.ai/ourblog/what-is-mouse-acceleration

On chess.com it's obvious with some players, I don't know if it's similar with lichess interface.

I myself have never tried it, but maybe I will give it a try someday.

@TsetseRoar Why some bullet and ultrabullet players are so quick with premoves? Possibly it's because they have turned off mouse acceleration. https://www.autonomous.ai/ourblog/what-is-mouse-acceleration On chess.com it's obvious with some players, I don't know if it's similar with lichess interface. I myself have never tried it, but maybe I will give it a try someday.