How can I get out of the 1800 range rating in chess?

Speed chess vs long chess is like heavy lifting vs high reps. Both are beneficial even to each other, but mostly to their own performance.

I like speed chess because it shows me areas I don't know really well. Many such areas. It is almost like flash cards. Getting corrected by soneone else is better than doing a deep calculation myself and missing something.

@Chesserroo2 said in #10:

Is Elo chess.com, USCF, or FIDE?

Chess com uses Glicko, USCF and FIDE use elo.

@Chesserroo2 said in #11:

Speed chess vs long chess is like heavy lifting vs high reps. Both are beneficial even to each other, but mostly to their own performance.

I like speed chess because it shows me areas I don't know really well. Many such areas. It is almost like flash cards. Getting corrected by soneone else is better than doing a deep calculation myself and missing something.

Speed chess helps improve the speed with which you do stuff you already know, but that's about it.

You will learn very little new skills by playing speed chess.

As I often say: you can't learn to run without learning to walk first.

80% of people who play bullet and blitz are still learning to crawl and are nowhere near learning to walk.

@Molurus said in #13:

Speed chess helps improve the speed with which you do stuff you already know, but that's about it.

You will learn very little new skills by playing speed chess.

As I often say: you can't learn to run without learning to walk first.

80% of people who play bullet and blitz are still learning to crawl and are nowhere near learning to walk.

I don't believe that. If that were true, then an hour game would not be long enough because 2 is longer, and 2 not long enough because 4 is longer. Very arbitrary.

I agree more time per move lets you learn more per move. But a rapid game has more moves. When I stare at puzzles long enough, I reach a point of diminishing returns. Granted, 2 minutes is likely not near that point.

@Chesserroo2 said in #14:

I don't believe that. If that were true, then an hour game would not be long enough because 2 is longer, and 2 not long enough because 4 is longer. Very arbitrary.

I agree more time per move lets you learn more per move. But a rapid game has more moves. When I stare at puzzles long enough, I reach a point of diminishing returns. Granted, 2 minutes is likely not near that point.

There is some minimum time you need to invest in your games to actually learn new stuff.

And bullet and blitz are definitely below that threshold.

Many people online see Hikaru play speed chess and think "I wanna do that!" but they totally forget that players like that didn't get to where they are by playing speed chess. Not a single one of them. Getting to that level takes hard work, studying, and playing serious chess. Meaning: long time control classical.

You can't get there with 3 minute games. You just can't.

@Molurus said in #15:

There is some minimum time you need to invest in your games to actually learn new stuff.

And bullet and blitz are definitely below that threshold.

Many people online see Hikaru play speed chess and think "I wanna do that!" but they totally forget that players like that didn't get to where they are by playing speed chess. Not a single one of them. Getting to that level takes hard work, studying, and playing serious chess. Meaning: long time control classical.

You can't get there with 3 minute games. You just can't.

I know people who increased their blitz rating 500 points just by playing blitz.

My main problem with blitz is there is no way to write down the moves otb. Fortunately, my blitz opponent loves to talk as much as I do and is as uncompetitive as I am. So we comment on each other's moves all game. Not as accurate as Stockfish, but good enough.

My problem withclassical is that if I actually use the alotted time, I would not finish the game. I also feel guilty thinking as long as I want, and my opponent looks around the room while waiting. Every classical game at my club finishes in under an hour. So they really are rapid game, my preferred time.

@Chesserroo2
500 online rating right? Are they playing well?

I can get classical time controls by trying to predict moves in anotated games. I can do 1/4 of the game per sitting.

STUDY is what he is asking about' NOT ONLY PLAYING ... So at least try to name RESOURCES like Chess Videos Chess Mags Chess Books Chjess Websites that you can praxtice on ... At Least Try Everyone I will have to see which Resources this 1800 has used already & he seems to be doing well anyway with his Lichess Rating but is asking which Materials to Use Like a new Chess book That just came out on It's A Matter Of Technique is the title a nice large book on a good subject matter @Rey0825

I believe multiple time controls are needed. Fast lets you see more patterns, and slow lets you build deep calculation.