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I don't think that software-wise most people need more than Lichess offers for free.

I don't think that software-wise most people need more than Lichess offers for free.

@MDA22 said in #10:

If there is, put the link.

https://github.com/rooklift/nibbler/releases
https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/releases

Please put the link of the best normal chess engines as well as artificial intelligence engines.

https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases - Crystal variant of Stockfish, especially tuned to solving chess problems and puzzles, not just to win games

https://github.com/CSSLab/maia-chess - Neural networks to be used in LC0 that play like human rated 1000-2000 not like a machine rated 3000

If possible, put a tutorial on how to use this software, especially those parts that are important and you have already learned.

Currently impossible, but I may have some free time in the coming winter.

@MDA22 said in #10: > If there is, put the link. https://github.com/rooklift/nibbler/releases https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/releases > Please put the link of the best normal chess engines as well as artificial intelligence engines. https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases - Crystal variant of Stockfish, especially tuned to solving chess problems and puzzles, not just to win games https://github.com/CSSLab/maia-chess - Neural networks to be used in LC0 that play like human rated 1000-2000 not like a machine rated 3000 > If possible, put a tutorial on how to use this software, especially those parts that are important and you have already learned. Currently impossible, but I may have some free time in the coming winter.

@WildTiger said in #11:

I don't think that software-wise most people need more than Lichess offers for free.

It is true in the sense that "most people" are just learning by rote memorization. Lichess isn't good for those students that learn by understanding the conceptual framework not by pattern recognition.

@WildTiger said in #11: > I don't think that software-wise most people need more than Lichess offers for free. It is true in the sense that "most people" are just learning by rote memorization. Lichess isn't good for those students that learn by understanding the conceptual framework not by pattern recognition.

@kalafiorczyk

I'm not sure I understand. When you are talking about "conceptual framework", what exactly are you talking about?
Could you give me some definition?

@kalafiorczyk I'm not sure I understand. When you are talking about "conceptual framework", what exactly are you talking about? Could you give me some definition?

@WildTiger said in #14:

@kalafiorczyk
I'm not sure I understand. When you are talking about "conceptual framework", what exactly are you talking about?
Could you give me some definition?

There is no simple definition. It is better to just give some examples.

  1. Chess memorizers are happy to learn that the chess piece values are 1, 3, 3, 5, 9 and be able to quickly calculate this on sight. Chess conceptual students will also want to understand "why?" and will find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_piece_relative_value more interesting read than just slogging through countless puzzles.

  2. Chess memorizers are happy to just know that connected rooks are worth more than just two rooks. Chess concepts students will find it more interesting to learn why Boby Fischer when designing Fischerandom chess added a rule that king must be between the rooks on the starting position.

  3. Chess memorizers start with learning chess tactics and later on add learning chess openings. Chess concepts students learn those too, but at all times look not at their rating but simultaneously try to learn strategical concepts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_strategy).

@WildTiger said in #14: > @kalafiorczyk > I'm not sure I understand. When you are talking about "conceptual framework", what exactly are you talking about? > Could you give me some definition? There is no simple definition. It is better to just give some examples. 1) Chess memorizers are happy to learn that the chess piece values are 1, 3, 3, 5, 9 and be able to quickly calculate this on sight. Chess conceptual students will also want to understand "why?" and will find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_piece_relative_value more interesting read than just slogging through countless puzzles. 2) Chess memorizers are happy to just know that connected rooks are worth more than just two rooks. Chess concepts students will find it more interesting to learn why Boby Fischer when designing Fischerandom chess added a rule that king must be between the rooks on the starting position. 3) Chess memorizers start with learning chess tactics and later on add learning chess openings. Chess concepts students learn those too, but at all times look not at their rating but simultaneously try to learn strategical concepts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_strategy).

I found chessmaster to be very good before i had internet it was my go to
and stopped me playing chess on my own lol
The academy trainning that comes with it helped alot and comes in three parts.
you can also choose players of different strengths in rated and unrated games
setting playing time of about 20 min each is ok and not fast games when learning.
chessmaster 11th edition is the last version is old but cheep and can be found on the internet.

You can see some videos here from the Josh Waitzkin Academy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6gi3Da1O0&list=PLbITzk6USCdR20ao3kQmP1QVgB_TXvSh6

I found chessmaster to be very good before i had internet it was my go to and stopped me playing chess on my own lol The academy trainning that comes with it helped alot and comes in three parts. you can also choose players of different strengths in rated and unrated games setting playing time of about 20 min each is ok and not fast games when learning. chessmaster 11th edition is the last version is old but cheep and can be found on the internet. You can see some videos here from the Josh Waitzkin Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6gi3Da1O0&list=PLbITzk6USCdR20ao3kQmP1QVgB_TXvSh6

Thanks for the replies everyone! It's been an interesting read. I've downloaded nibbler and have Stockfish and have played around analyzing a few of my games. It's amazing how the moves make so much sense when the computer points them out, but I just don't see them when I'm playing the game. Kinda painful to witness honestly. Perhaps one day I will start catching those mistakes and tactics will be easier to utilize.

Thanks for the replies everyone! It's been an interesting read. I've downloaded nibbler and have Stockfish and have played around analyzing a few of my games. It's amazing how the moves make so much sense when the computer points them out, but I just don't see them when I'm playing the game. Kinda painful to witness honestly. Perhaps one day I will start catching those mistakes and tactics will be easier to utilize.

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