Dont mind the terrible game but after engine analisis i checked if best was really a repetition.
Blacks last move 23. Qa3 was a blunder after the engine gives 0.00
I play the engines best move 24. Nc1 after wich the engine all of a sudden gives black a 5.1 advantage!
https://lichess.org/VjgFRawr#46
How does this work?
Dont mind the terrible game but after engine analisis i checked if best was really a repetition.
Blacks last move 23. Qa3 was a blunder after the engine gives 0.00
I play the engines best move 24. Nc1 after wich the engine all of a sudden gives black a 5.1 advantage!
https://lichess.org/VjgFRawr#46
How does this work?
Qa3 is a blunder not because it worsens the position for black, but because it allows the threefold repetition.
Qa3 is a blunder not because it worsens the position for black, but because it allows the threefold repetition.
@Proleet Yes the engine is broken. It's not 0.00. Black is winning.
@Proleet Yes the engine is broken. It's not 0.00. Black is winning.
@pointlesswindows said in #3:
@Proleet Yes the engine is broken. It's not 0.00. Black is winning.
The engine is not broken. It shows 0 because black is allowing a draw and white can claim it, like it did.
@pointlesswindows said in #3:
> @Proleet Yes the engine is broken. It's not 0.00. Black is winning.
The engine is not broken. It shows 0 because black is allowing a draw and white can claim it, like it did.
ahhh, ofcourse. Thank you sirs.
ahhh, ofcourse. Thank you sirs.
@Deadban said in #4:
The engine is not broken. It shows 0 because black is allowing a draw and white can claim it, like it did.
Oh I didn't consider the whole game, only the last move. There is a 3 times repetition, so yes he can claim a draw and the engine is not broken.
But in this position, if we don't know the game's moves, black is winning. The repetition rule is responsible for all this confusion.
@Deadban said in #4:
> The engine is not broken. It shows 0 because black is allowing a draw and white can claim it, like it did.
Oh I didn't consider the whole game, only the last move. There is a 3 times repetition, so yes he can claim a draw and the engine is not broken.
But in this position, if we don't know the game's moves, black is winning. The repetition rule is responsible for all this confusion.
@Deadban
What exactly do you disagree with in my previous comment?
@Deadban
What exactly do you disagree with in my previous comment?
I disagree with the fact that there is confusion. Since in this case moves are available it is straight forward to see why the engine showed 0 at that exact moment.
You commented without taking into account all factors and that is because you didn't look at the entire game. So it can't be the rule fault but rather a flaw in your investigation.
I disagree with the fact that there is confusion. Since in this case moves are available it is straight forward to see why the engine showed 0 at that exact moment.
You commented without taking into account all factors and that is because you didn't look at the entire game. So it can't be the rule fault but rather a flaw in your investigation.
It's only a part of my message. I made a mistake and I realised that, you completely ignored that and focused only on 1 thing, that I forgot about the confusing repetition rule. By voting down you basically say that everything I said is wrong, even that it was a draw and that the engine is not broken. Weird.
It's only a part of my message. I made a mistake and I realised that, you completely ignored that and focused only on 1 thing, that I forgot about the confusing repetition rule. By voting down you basically say that everything I said is wrong, even that it was a draw and that the engine is not broken. Weird.