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Elo rating differences

#1

I would like to know what my real score is because I don't understand anything
Like many of you, I also play on other sites.
But my scores are completely different. (

I'm talking about Bullet

Lichess 1830
ChessTempo 1930
PremiunChess 2630
Chess.com ops...Cheater.com 1400

Why all these differences?? I don't know what my level is (I only play online.) Indeed, according to the official FIDE site, I would be AFM Arena Fide Master..Obviously a fake title that is worth nothing, another site really full of cheaters, but that's another matter.

So which evaluation should I refer to?? Thank you!

I would like to know what my real score is because I don't understand anything Like many of you, I also play on other sites. But my scores are completely different. ( I'm talking about Bullet Lichess 1830 ChessTempo 1930 PremiunChess 2630 Chess.com ops...Cheater.com 1400 Why all these differences?? I don't know what my level is (I only play online.) Indeed, according to the official FIDE site, I would be AFM Arena Fide Master..Obviously a fake title that is worth nothing, another site really full of cheaters, but that's another matter. So which evaluation should I refer to?? Thank you!
#2

You can't really refer to any of these numbers compared to a FIDE rating.

Reading this will help: https://lichess.org/faq#high-ratings

And there have actually been attempts to compare the ratings but they're not really reliable in my opinion. Like this one: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/#lichessotb

You can't really refer to any of these numbers compared to a FIDE rating. Reading this will help: https://lichess.org/faq#high-ratings And there have actually been attempts to compare the ratings but they're not really reliable in my opinion. Like this one: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/#lichessotb
#3

Basic thing to understand that rating are relative. 1500 for example does not mean anything in isolation. it means that when playing 1300 player in same pool you are expected to score 0.75 points per game and playing against 1700 you are expected to score 0.25 i.e. on difference matters. Since starting rating on each site can vary level of players can vary there is about zero change rating ending on same lever. ChessTempo obviously even measures ability to solve problems which does have correlation to you playing skills but is far from 1-1

So in lichess you refer to lichess rating and in chess.com you refer to chess.com rating.

Basic thing to understand that rating are relative. 1500 for example does not mean anything in isolation. it means that when playing 1300 player in same pool you are expected to score 0.75 points per game and playing against 1700 you are expected to score 0.25 i.e. on difference matters. Since starting rating on each site can vary level of players can vary there is about zero change rating ending on same lever. ChessTempo obviously even measures ability to solve problems which does have correlation to you playing skills but is far from 1-1 So in lichess you refer to lichess rating and in chess.com you refer to chess.com rating.
#4

@TheDeepKing said in #1:

I would like to know what my real score is because I don't understand anything

Why all these differences?? I don't know what my level is (I only play online.) Indeed, according to the official FIDE site, I would be AFM Arena Fide Master..Obviously a fake title that is worth nothing, another site really full of cheaters, but that's another matter.
So which evaluation should I refer to?? Thank you!

<I snipped a bit for space and brevity>

Who said that Elo rating is an evaluation of anything? It isn't.

Professor Elo's rating system was never intended to evaluate chess players' abilities. It doesn't evaluate anything. It measures. It is strictly a measurement of past success. Now yes, good players are, over the long haul, more successful than weak players, but his system does not pretend to predict when those stronger players will prevail, nor how. It measures what has happened, not what might. Much the way a racing form tells you which horse has won it's last 5 races, but doesn't tell you which horse will will the next.

What is your level? that wholly depends on which pool of players you are referring to. Ratings based on the Elo system are not transferable from one website or even time control to another. And they fluctuate, depending on results. Sometimes wildly at short time controls, when you play a lot in a short time. You have different ratings at different chess sites and at different time controls? That is absolutely normal. What would be crazy, very much "something fishy is going on here" odd is if you had exactly the same rating across several chess sites and time controls.

Cheaters have very little, if anything to do with differences between ratings in one system or pool and another. But if you're inclined to believe yourself entitled to more rating points than you have, and to blame someone for your rating shortfall; go ahead and accuse nameless others of cheating. You aren't the first, won't be the last.

@TheDeepKing said in #1: > I would like to know what my real score is because I don't understand anything > Why all these differences?? I don't know what my level is (I only play online.) Indeed, according to the official FIDE site, I would be AFM Arena Fide Master..Obviously a fake title that is worth nothing, another site really full of cheaters, but that's another matter. > So which evaluation should I refer to?? Thank you! <I snipped a bit for space and brevity> Who said that Elo rating is an evaluation of anything? It isn't. Professor Elo's rating system was never intended to evaluate chess players' abilities. It doesn't evaluate anything. It measures. It is strictly a measurement of past success. Now yes, good players are, over the long haul, more successful than weak players, but his system does not pretend to predict when those stronger players will prevail, nor how. It measures what has happened, not what might. Much the way a racing form tells you which horse has won it's last 5 races, but doesn't tell you which horse will will the next. What is your level? that wholly depends on which pool of players you are referring to. Ratings based on the Elo system are not transferable from one website or even time control to another. And they fluctuate, depending on results. Sometimes wildly at short time controls, when you play a lot in a short time. You have different ratings at different chess sites and at different time controls? That is absolutely normal. What would be crazy, very much "something fishy is going on here" odd is if you had exactly the same rating across several chess sites and time controls. Cheaters have very little, if anything to do with differences between ratings in one system or pool and another. But if you're inclined to believe yourself entitled to more rating points than you have, and to blame someone for your rating shortfall; go ahead and accuse nameless others of cheating. You aren't the first, won't be the last.
#5

@verylate said in #4:

Professor Elo's rating system was never intended to evaluate chess players' abilities. It doesn't evaluate anything. It measures. It is strictly a measurement of past success.

lol

@verylate said in #4: > Professor Elo's rating system was never intended to evaluate chess players' abilities. It doesn't evaluate anything. It measures. It is strictly a measurement of past success. lol
#6

You should say your rating is 2630.

You should say your rating is 2630.
#7

Why do people tend to compare rating on different servers?

Why do people tend to compare rating on different servers?
#8

@TheDeepKing said in #1:

Chess.com ops...Cheater.com 1400

Do you mean chess.com is a cheater or many users playing there are cheaters ?

@TheDeepKing said in #1: > Chess.com ops...Cheater.com 1400 Do you mean chess.com is a cheater or many users playing there are cheaters ?
#9

@LexDev said in #8:

Do you mean chess.com is a cheater or many users playing there are cheaters ?

I call it Cheaters.com, just because it's really full of cheaters! These are not guesses but a fact.

@LexDev said in #8: > Do you mean chess.com is a cheater or many users playing there are cheaters ? I call it Cheaters.com, just because it's really full of cheaters! These are not guesses but a fact.
#10

@kajalmaya said in #6:

You should say your rating is 2630.

I'm not saying it because I really don't think it's my level. Maybe, and just maybe, I'm between 1900 and 2000 ELO, but just to exaggerate..( I always ad only refer to the Bullet. )

@kajalmaya said in #6: > You should say your rating is 2630. I'm not saying it because I really don't think it's my level. Maybe, and just maybe, I'm between 1900 and 2000 ELO, but just to exaggerate..( I always ad only refer to the Bullet. )

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