Does anyone else absolutely hate chess?

I mean, just think how many brilliant minds (not me) who could've change the world for better dedicated their whole life to moving pieces on boards and helping no one. This game is nothing but an intellectual masturbation for snobs pretending to be smart (more like me). If these geniuses who wasted their lifes developing meaningless theory and studying wooden pieces 16 hours daily made achievements in real life science (and at least some of them absolutely could) we could avoid many preventable deaths and our lives would be overall better. Also, today it's nothing but memorizing nonsense book and trying to match computer move anyway.

Edit: it's still a fun game sometimes, this doesn't cancel my previous point

If you disagree, you may be very privileged.

• know that brilliant minds like Benjamin Franklin, Moses Mendelssohn and Philidor were fairly experienced chess players while having intellectual activity useful to society.

• most often non-players who accuse chess of being an intellectual game. it's the opposite, anyone can play it.

• my privilege is simply to play simply for fun, because the almost unlimited logic behind the seemingly simple pieces fascinates me. as well as the philosophical and metaphysical reflection that chess brought me.

chess made me grow humanly.

You are too negative. Games and sports is an important part of our society. I think it helps many people to become smarter.

You definitely have a point with chess being a huge waste of potential of great minds.

Unfortunately however, the world doesn't work that way. In order to be successful in economy you have to have high education, need to be present a lot, be hard-working, willing to do overtime, deal with a lot of stress, deal with bullying, especially as a smart kid who people are jealous of and so on... you don't just wake up and are a doctor who can find treatment for cancer - it's a long painful way full of competition, where only diligence is required, not intelligence or creativity.

Some smart people/chess players had nice careers too, they were doctors, mathematicians or professors. However you are right: Most very intelligent smart chess players are neglecting a lot in life to play chess: No studying, no girlfriend, no job. However the underlying reason is that there is something wrong for them with studying, girlfriends or jobs, otherwise they would just go for it. They feel too stressed or that there is something wrong. If it wouldn't be chess, those people would just play something different, it has nothing to do with chess in particular. Try binge watching youtube shorts or tiktoks and it's just the same as playing bullet chess.

I for my part have a love-hate relationship with chess. I do love chess as a form of art. I think, what can make you hate chess is when you spend TOO MUCH time with it. Analysing, learning or playing can be a lot of fun, but you should do other stuff too in life to become happy and have purpose. As Moscow also said: Chess has made me more calm, smarter, thoughtful, reflected: A lot I have learned in chess can be applied to other areas of life too. There are definitely good lessons to learn from chess like accepting mistakes, analysing mistakes, admiting defeat, being humble, achieving goals and so on.

@Stellungsbeurteilung said in #5:

You definitely have a point with chess being a huge waste of potential of great minds.

Unfortunately however, the world doesn't work that way. In order to be successful in economy you have to have high education, need to be present a lot, be hard-working, willing to do overtime, deal with a lot of stress, deal with bullying, especially as a smart kid who people are jealous of and so on... you don't just wake up and are a doctor who can find treatment for cancer - it's a long painful way full of competition, where only diligence is required, not intelligence or creativity.

Some smart people/chess players had nice careers too, they were doctors, mathematicians or professors. However you are right: Most very intelligent smart chess players are neglecting a lot in life to play chess: No studying, no girlfriend, no job. However the underlying reason is that there is something wrong for them with studying, girlfriends or jobs, otherwise they would just go for it. They feel too stressed or that there is something wrong. If it wouldn't be chess, those people would just play something different, it has nothing to do with chess in particular. Try binge watching youtube shorts or tiktoks and it's just the same as playing bullet chess.

I for my part have a love-hate relationship with chess. I do love chess as a form of art. I think, what can make you hate chess is when you spend TOO MUCH time with it. Analysing, learning or playing can be a lot of fun, but you should do other stuff too in life to become happy and have purpose. As Moscow also said: Chess has made me more calm, smarter, thoughtful, reflected: A lot I have learned in chess can be applied to other areas of life too. There are definitely good lessons to learn from chess like accepting mistakes, analysing mistakes, admiting defeat, being humble, achieving goals and so on.
Nice

I am same because my father taught me chess when I was 3

Long time back

@Hypochlorite said in #1:

Edit: it's still a fun game sometimes, this doesn't cancel my previous point

Well that's it really, it brings happiness to a lot of people. Are you saying all GMs and all sports people are a waste of space, Messi and Ronaldo , Magnus? Waste of spacers? No it's for entertainment in this rather sad and miserable world that it is now. The money they get paid is ridiculous compared to nurses and fire fighters that are helping others . Entertainment is alright ain't it? and if chess is a 'sport' are you saying cancel all sport because people are wasting their time ? xxx

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy xxx

@Hypochlorite Here's the funny thing. Emmanuel Lasker was world chess champion for 27 years.

He was good friends with Albert Einstein - Lasker also made some discoveries in mathematics - obviously, nothing like the ones that Einstein was making.
Still Einstein found Lasker to be a very interesting guy, and they had conversations on a wide variety of topics.

Another thing to consider is that maybe by diverting some genius mind to chess away from science - the world avoided the invention of a weapon of mass destruction even worse than the nuclear bomb. A hopeful thought.