Chess Revenue

@holybadger
Probably I don't understand what you are looking for perfectly. Here's my view.
If you are talking about professional chess players then sure, an income would incentivize hard work and self-improvment. This is a basic concept: (more) money available --> sustainable (or even desirable) work career --> chess player would love that.
However, if you mean casual chess in a community of players, I don't think it's a good method; it can work for you, but generally speaking I think it's bad.
- where's money there's cheating. The community would suffer that
- money imply following the law of the various countries
- you'd be surprised of how greedy and toxic we can become even for a seemingly low sum of money
- in many cases it would make the game experience more stressful instead of enjoyable, and in the worst case, starting patological problems

Personally I don't think a dollar or two would make me want to improve more. If I want to get better I don't need that kind of incentive, and if I don't, well it means I just want to play for fun, therefore money would be distruptive for the purpouse

@derkleineJo said in #9:
> @holybadger I'm not sure if I understand you right, but what you describe somehow goes into gambling/casino direction, which then gets complicated because (inter)national law(s) - and dont forget, lots of kids are playing here, too...
>
> Have fun!

Thanks! No, not a casino and not gambling. The way I see is you have similar mechanics like poker... you have stakes (micro, small, low, medium, high) and players choose what stakes they want to play and Buy-in. This would allow them to play for pennies and climb the ladder giving a better structure to what they have nowadays. Even Hikamura mentioned that Chess has difficulties in giving revenue to its players, so I really believe chess should have a look at esports and let recreational, amateur, semi-pros, pros and Masters monetize their skill in an open environment instead of a closed one. If you want the link to Hikamura talking about that let me know

@jumbone said in #11:
> @holybadger
> Probably I don't understand what you are looking for perfectly. Here's my view.
> If you are talking about professional chess players then sure, an income would incentivize hard work and self-improvment. This is a basic concept: (more) money available --> sustainable (or even desirable) work career --> chess player would love that.
> However, if you mean casual chess in a community of players, I don't think it's a good method; it can work for you, but generally speaking I think it's bad.
> - where's money there's cheating. The community would suffer that
> - money imply following the law of the various countries
> - you'd be surprised of how greedy and toxic we can become even for a seemingly low sum of money
> - in many cases it would make the game experience more stressful instead of enjoyable, and in the worst case, starting patological problems
>
> Personally I don't think a dollar or two would make me want to improve more. If I want to get better I don't need that kind of incentive, and if I don't, well it means I just want to play for fun, therefore money would be distruptive for the purpose

I see what you mean, however its up to the platforms, organizations to combat them and up to the community to be the eyes and ears of the platform/organization. If you want to pursue a career in Chess the incentives are really low even if you are a GM, Hikamura has said himself. Chess being one of the oldest games around should have GMs making a living out of it, instead of struggling.

This would be monetizing skill, not gambling. There are technologies that prevent cheating. That would be a never-ending battle, but possible to remedy! Wouldn't it be incredible to earn pennies, as a child, just for being a chess genius? And finally law, I guess we also have crypto which is not regulated at all and so skill games shouldn't be forbidden to play for money. For me looks doable!

@Samuwell said in #15:
> there are a lot of kids who don`t have money

then they don't play for that kind of reward :)

@Samuwell said in #17:
> your idea will not work

could you elaborate?

@holybadger said in #12:
> Thanks! No, not a casino and not gambling. The way I see is you have similar mechanics like poker... you have stakes (micro, small, low, medium, high) and players choose what stakes they want to play and Buy-in.

I don't know for other countries but in germany playing poker for money is only legal in casinos => gambling/law...

Have fun!