@Hitsugaya said in #32:
Because he wanted to? Yes putting the rook on the open file is the easiest move but some people just like to attack more, the accuracy would have been the same if he moved the rook, the engine even prefers that.
e5 is part of the opening and the bishop attack makes sense since he just moved his bishop the move prior and put it in an inferior unprotected square, so he thought "how do I improve my bishop now, can't let it hang here". And attacked the f1 rook to reposition with tempo.
Anyone could have played that.
Answers: Because he wanted to, and some people like to attack.
K man. 7 centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy, and that's the best you can come up with. It's the exact line proposed by Komodo. Note to all cheaters... Use Komodo, you're welcome.
@Hitsugaya said in #32:
> Because he wanted to? Yes putting the rook on the open file is the easiest move but some people just like to attack more, the accuracy would have been the same if he moved the rook, the engine even prefers that.
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> e5 is part of the opening and the bishop attack makes sense since he just moved his bishop the move prior and put it in an inferior unprotected square, so he thought "how do I improve my bishop now, can't let it hang here". And attacked the f1 rook to reposition with tempo.
> Anyone could have played that.
Answers: Because he wanted to, and some people like to attack.
K man. 7 centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy, and that's the best you can come up with. It's the exact line proposed by Komodo. Note to all cheaters... Use Komodo, you're welcome.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #33:
Answers: Because he wanted to, and some people like to attack.
K man. 7 centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy, and that's the best you can come up with. It's the exact line proposed by Komodo. Note to all cheaters... Use Komodo, you're welcome.
You forgot the part about the simplicity of the move, the more a move is complex the more I can assume it's from an engine. Ng4 is not complex at all.
You also ignore the move you prefer (taking the open file) would have given the same accuracy and I would have said the same thing because it's also a simple move.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #33:
> Answers: Because he wanted to, and some people like to attack.
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> K man. 7 centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy, and that's the best you can come up with. It's the exact line proposed by Komodo. Note to all cheaters... Use Komodo, you're welcome.
You forgot the part about the simplicity of the move, the more a move is complex the more I can assume it's from an engine. Ng4 is not complex at all.
You also ignore the move you prefer (taking the open file) would have given the same accuracy and I would have said the same thing because it's also a simple move.
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@midnightmusicnetwork said in #11:
You do realize the OP is rated at around 2000? So, this is not him making stupid blunders, easy trade down games, and playing into obvious traps, or memorized attacks. At his level, there is plenty of closed positional games where the only right move is difficult to find for a human, and the continuation requires computer like calculation. Getting tired of reading the "1000 to 1500" level players who say "MaYbE iTs CuZ YoU pLaY BaD BrUh". Or "PrOlLy WaS BeCuZ YoU dId ObViOuS TrAdEs, aNd Ez TaCtIcS". My favorite one "NoT EvErYoNe WhO BeEtS U Iz A ChEeToR".
Exactly. I play Caro-Kann defense as Black, and I play various lines of the Catalan and King's Indian as White. It's very unlikely to blunder early in these openings.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #11:
> You do realize the OP is rated at around 2000? So, this is not him making stupid blunders, easy trade down games, and playing into obvious traps, or memorized attacks. At his level, there is plenty of closed positional games where the only right move is difficult to find for a human, and the continuation requires computer like calculation. Getting tired of reading the "1000 to 1500" level players who say "MaYbE iTs CuZ YoU pLaY BaD BrUh". Or "PrOlLy WaS BeCuZ YoU dId ObViOuS TrAdEs, aNd Ez TaCtIcS". My favorite one "NoT EvErYoNe WhO BeEtS U Iz A ChEeToR".
Exactly. I play Caro-Kann defense as Black, and I play various lines of the Catalan and King's Indian as White. It's very unlikely to blunder early in these openings.
@Hitsugaya said in #19:
Public shaming is against Lichess policy. I'm not allowed to post suspected cheaters here. If you're interested, you can go through my profile and find the suspected cheaters by yourself.
@Hitsugaya said in #19:
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Public shaming is against Lichess policy. I'm not allowed to post suspected cheaters here. If you're interested, you can go through my profile and find the suspected cheaters by yourself.
I played an 1100 in a Lichess Blitz tourney recently. He played really fast and even berserked.
I played an 1100 in a Lichess Blitz tourney recently. He played really fast and even berserked.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #26:
Here is another one. 6 Centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy over 40+ moves. Yeah... here comes the 1100 rated players "JuSt GiT GoOd BrUh". "ThIs Is ThEoRy BrUh". lichess.org/VoLfs66j
.....aaaaand he's gone.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #26:
> Here is another one. 6 Centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy over 40+ moves. Yeah... here comes the 1100 rated players "JuSt GiT GoOd BrUh". "ThIs Is ThEoRy BrUh". lichess.org/VoLfs66j
.....aaaaand he's gone.
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #26:
Here is another one. 6 Centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy over 40+ moves. Yeah... here comes the 1100 rated players "JuSt GiT GoOd BrUh". "ThIs Is ThEoRy BrUh". lichess.org/VoLfs66j
That game was a draw. What are you trying to prove?
@midnightmusicnetwork said in #26:
> Here is another one. 6 Centipawn loss, and 99% accuracy over 40+ moves. Yeah... here comes the 1100 rated players "JuSt GiT GoOd BrUh". "ThIs Is ThEoRy BrUh". lichess.org/VoLfs66j
That game was a draw. What are you trying to prove?
@SeanRR said in #1:
I know this has probably been said by other users, but I do feel that cheating has increased recently in Classical and Rapid mode. Sadly, it's not just new accounts who cheat and get quickly banned.
For many years there have been regular forum posts saying cheating has increased. Probably started in the first week of the lichess forum's existence.
I've observed that some players with 2000 rating and 8 years on Lichess played many games with 99% accuracy and less than 10 average centipawn loss against 1900-2000 players. The most plausible explanation here is cheating.
they must be pretty bad cheaters to have 8 years under their belt and have a rating of 2000. I would have thought their rating would be over 9000 by now. If they just started cheating, you would see their rating having a sharp increase.
The alternative is they have joined the "let's get seanrr" whatsapp group, where 1000s of us conspire to cheat only against you so as not to increase our ratings to a suspiciously high level.
My hypothesis is that rising global inflation and political instability have made people more selfish and desperate, therefore they cheat against strangers online to make up with their failure in real life.
I could understand if there was an increase in new accounts getting flagged for cheating due to things like chess boxing and popular twitch streamers playing chess.
it doesn't seem likely lots of old accounts would suddenly start cheating, and cheating in a way that isn't detectable, and cheating in a way that doesn't increase their rating to over 9000. They would have to deliberately lose games, I don't see someone who feels the need to cheat deliberately losing games.
@SeanRR said in #1:
> I know this has probably been said by other users, but I do feel that cheating has increased recently in Classical and Rapid mode. Sadly, it's not just new accounts who cheat and get quickly banned.
For many years there have been regular forum posts saying cheating has increased. Probably started in the first week of the lichess forum's existence.
> I've observed that some players with 2000 rating and 8 years on Lichess played many games with 99% accuracy and less than 10 average centipawn loss against 1900-2000 players. The most plausible explanation here is cheating.
they must be pretty bad cheaters to have 8 years under their belt and have a rating of 2000. I would have thought their rating would be over 9000 by now. If they just started cheating, you would see their rating having a sharp increase.
The alternative is they have joined the "let's get seanrr" whatsapp group, where 1000s of us conspire to cheat only against you so as not to increase our ratings to a suspiciously high level.
> My hypothesis is that rising global inflation and political instability have made people more selfish and desperate, therefore they cheat against strangers online to make up with their failure in real life.
I could understand if there was an increase in new accounts getting flagged for cheating due to things like chess boxing and popular twitch streamers playing chess.
it doesn't seem likely lots of old accounts would suddenly start cheating, and cheating in a way that isn't detectable, and cheating in a way that doesn't increase their rating to over 9000. They would have to deliberately lose games, I don't see someone who feels the need to cheat deliberately losing games.
I always enjoy these threads. So many strong opinions on the topic. So many opportunities to brag about who knows more about chess. So many people who take these opportunities. :D
I must say I don't notice any problem with cheating. In the past year, maybe once or twice I suspected that someone who beat me cheated. But maybe that's just because I'm not good enough to be able to tell whether someone who beat me cheated or not. Or maybe because a "successful" cheater spends only a small amount of time in my rating range before ascending into the 2000s. Or both.
@DevelopingTheory said in #15:
What does anyone mention of correspondence chess? Would anybody mind commenting on cheating in correspondence chess as it may be related to this topic
You can already use the opening explorer in correspondence chess. It's not the same as an engine, but it does change the "Meta", compared to other time controls. I think cheating in correspondence is just not as "rewarding" to the cheater as it is in Rapid or Blitz.
I always enjoy these threads. So many strong opinions on the topic. So many opportunities to brag about who knows more about chess. So many people who take these opportunities. :D
I must say I don't notice any problem with cheating. In the past year, maybe once or twice I suspected that someone who beat me cheated. But maybe that's just because I'm not good enough to be able to tell whether someone who beat me cheated or not. Or maybe because a "successful" cheater spends only a small amount of time in my rating range before ascending into the 2000s. Or both.
@DevelopingTheory said in #15:
> What does anyone mention of correspondence chess? Would anybody mind commenting on cheating in correspondence chess as it may be related to this topic
You can already use the opening explorer in correspondence chess. It's not the same as an engine, but it does change the "Meta", compared to other time controls. I think cheating in correspondence is just not as "rewarding" to the cheater as it is in Rapid or Blitz.