Cheap and good mouse.

@Bee3D said in #1:

I want a mouse to use for bullet and other modes that are better with a mouse. Does anybody have any good suggestions for a good, cheap, and portable mouse that you can get off of amazon?

A cheap mouse will not help You. Get a Logitech mouse that's the one I have

@Bee3D said in #1: > I want a mouse to use for bullet and other modes that are better with a mouse. Does anybody have any good suggestions for a good, cheap, and portable mouse that you can get off of amazon? A cheap mouse will not help You. Get a Logitech mouse that's the one I have

Logitech G203

@MieszkoTheFirst said in #22:

Logitech G203
The mouse looks good but its not cheap. I'm not really willing to pay 40 dollars for a mouse.

@MieszkoTheFirst said in #22: > Logitech G203 The mouse looks good but its not cheap. I'm not really willing to pay 40 dollars for a mouse.

Bee3D

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The mouse I use for gaming is a Redragon M601-RGB. The reason I dont use this one is because its good with custom software but isn't as good without it, and I want to use it on a laptop I don't own. Heres the link to it btw https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Gaming-Ergonomic-Backlit-Windows/dp/B00HTK1NCS/ref=asc_df_B00HTK1NCS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198100405651&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7265955611353774881&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008199&hvtargid=pla-318320084306&psc=1

MieszkoTheFirst

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@Bee3D said in #23:

The mouse looks good but its not cheap. I'm not really willing to pay 40 dollars for a mouse.
Cheap is relative of course. Have a look at the Logitech M100 then. Around USD10. But personally I'd never buy a mouse without buttons to move forward/backward in the web browser. I don't like wasting my time moving the mouse around.

@Bee3D said in #23: > The mouse looks good but its not cheap. I'm not really willing to pay 40 dollars for a mouse. Cheap is relative of course. Have a look at the Logitech M100 then. Around USD10. But personally I'd never buy a mouse without buttons to move forward/backward in the web browser. I don't like wasting my time moving the mouse around.

Bee3D

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@MieszkoTheFirst said in #25:

Cheap is relative of course. Have a look at the Logitech M100 then. Around USD10. But personally I'd never buy a mouse without buttons to move forward/backward in the web browser. I don't like wasting my time moving the mouse around.
That mouse seems very good

@MieszkoTheFirst said in #25: > Cheap is relative of course. Have a look at the Logitech M100 then. Around USD10. But personally I'd never buy a mouse without buttons to move forward/backward in the web browser. I don't like wasting my time moving the mouse around. That mouse seems very good

Bee3D

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To anybody that thinks having a mouse doesnt improve your chess skills then watch this game.
I would have lost to time if I didn't have a mouse.

https://lichess.org/eZxEtGSuPN31

To anybody that thinks having a mouse doesnt improve your chess skills then watch this game. I would have lost to time if I didn't have a mouse. https://lichess.org/eZxEtGSuPN31

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DeltaDevil edited

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The only thing I'll note is that cheap wireless mice are bad and have high latency and questionable consistency. It's not rare for them to add ~20ms of latency which over 50 moves is a full second. Even wired mice have differences in latency, but it's not as extreme, check out https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency. Unlike with ping, you don't get refunded any time for mouse lag. If you're playing tons of hyperbullet you might want to just consider springing for a well tested model, decent quality, simple, lightweight, low latency. If you don't have any money, maybe play on a slower time control with a basic mouse, your gear might matter in a 30 second game but in a 2/1 game probably not. At a fast enough time control you basically have the same concerns that a competitive esports gamer would have and they spend plenty on gear.

Also look into the lichess keyboard input extension which is, AFAIK still considered legal.

Literally any mouse that isn't a complete piece of crap will work, just get the cheapest model of any reputable brand and that is going to be a world of improvements over a trackpad. Chess doesn't really require fine movements so you can get away with a cheap 3 button mouse. The only thing I'll note is that cheap wireless mice are bad and have high latency and questionable consistency. It's not rare for them to add ~20ms of latency which over 50 moves is a full second. Even wired mice have differences in latency, but it's not as extreme, check out https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency. Unlike with ping, you don't get refunded any time for mouse lag. If you're playing tons of hyperbullet you might want to just consider springing for a well tested model, decent quality, simple, lightweight, low latency. If you don't have any money, maybe play on a slower time control with a basic mouse, your gear might matter in a 30 second game but in a 2/1 game probably not. At a fast enough time control you basically have the same concerns that a competitive esports gamer would have and they spend plenty on gear. Also look into the lichess keyboard input extension which is, AFAIK still considered legal.

Bee3D

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@DeltaDevil said in #29:

Literally any mouse that isn't a complete piece of crap will work, just get the cheapest model of any reputable brand and that is going to be a world of improvements over a trackpad. Chess doesn't really require fine movements so you can get away with a cheap 3 button mouse.

The only thing I'll note is that cheap wireless mice are bad and have high latency and questionable consistency. It's not rare for them to add ~20ms of latency which over 50 moves is a full second. Even wired mice have differences in latency, but it's not as extreme, check out www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency. Unlike with ping, you don't get refunded any time for mouse lag. If you're playing tons of hyperbullet you might want to just consider springing for a well tested model, decent quality, simple, lightweight, low latency. If you don't have any money, maybe play on a slower time control with a basic mouse, your gear might matter in a 30 second game but in a 2/1 game probably not. At a fast enough time control you basically have the same concerns that a competitive esports gamer would have and they spend plenty on gear.

Also look into the lichess keyboard input extension which is, AFAIK still considered legal.
I can't use the keyboard extension because I can't download any 3rd party programs on this computer. I am thinking of the logitech M100. The reason I don't want a super cheap mouse is because if the connection is bad it may disconnect which is a problem I had with a different mouse.

@DeltaDevil said in #29: > Literally any mouse that isn't a complete piece of crap will work, just get the cheapest model of any reputable brand and that is going to be a world of improvements over a trackpad. Chess doesn't really require fine movements so you can get away with a cheap 3 button mouse. > > The only thing I'll note is that cheap wireless mice are bad and have high latency and questionable consistency. It's not rare for them to add ~20ms of latency which over 50 moves is a full second. Even wired mice have differences in latency, but it's not as extreme, check out www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency. Unlike with ping, you don't get refunded any time for mouse lag. If you're playing tons of hyperbullet you might want to just consider springing for a well tested model, decent quality, simple, lightweight, low latency. If you don't have any money, maybe play on a slower time control with a basic mouse, your gear might matter in a 30 second game but in a 2/1 game probably not. At a fast enough time control you basically have the same concerns that a competitive esports gamer would have and they spend plenty on gear. > > Also look into the lichess keyboard input extension which is, AFAIK still considered legal. I can't use the keyboard extension because I can't download any 3rd party programs on this computer. I am thinking of the logitech M100. The reason I don't want a super cheap mouse is because if the connection is bad it may disconnect which is a problem I had with a different mouse.

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