Can adding time be bad form?

One of my major pet peeves with online chess is when people let time run out. Especially when they don't log off so you don't have the option to claim victory.

So when I sense my opponent is just going to let the last 10-15 seconds run off the clock, I will add time so that they either have to resign or get the automated warning.

What do you think? I know game abandonment bothers me more than most because I've gotten in arguments on here with people about it.

You're only wasting your time. And I don't mean the time in anyone's clock, but the time in your day. The guy probably raged and went for a glass of water and you're still thinking about him and adding time to an empty chair. Take the win and play another game; 15 seconds is nothing, it's not like it's seven minutes or something. He may even be actually thinking for all you know.

@JuicyChickenNO1 said in #2:

You're only wasting your time. And I don't mean the time in anyone's clock, but the time in your day. The guy probably raged and went for a glass of water and you're still thinking about him and adding time to an empty chair. Take the win and play another game; 15 seconds is nothing, it's not like it's seven minutes or something. He may even be actually thinking for all you know.

I don't see it as wasting my time at all. If I have to sit for a few more seconds so that there are some consequences for petulant children who would rather spitefully let the clock run out then I'm happy to do so. And if they ARE just thinking as you say, then I'm doing them a favor.

Lichess doesn't punish abandonment harshly enough. It takes literally nothing to click resign, yet I routinely have people let time run out. I've had people tell me that I signed up for a 5 minute game, so it's my opponent's right to use that time however they wish. Wrong. I signed up to play chess for 5 minutes, not chess for 2 minutes and then watch a clock run out after they blunder.

Your opponent is either:
1- Thinking and doesn't notice time (happens to me since I play with music, I don't hear the timer warning and flag!)
2- Ragequit and closed the tab

So in those situations adding time didn't help you achieve anything: They are either thinking dealing with their emotions trying to find a move or they closed the game already, in which case all you do is waste your own time.

@emaN-drawkcaB said in #4:

Your opponent is either:
1- Thinking and doesn't notice time (happens to me since I play with music, I don't hear the timer warning and flag!)
2- Ragequit and closed the tab

So in those situations adding time didn't help you achieve anything: They are either thinking dealing with their emotions trying to find a move or they closed the game already, in which case all you do is waste your own time.

Ragequitting should have consequences, and sometimes if there is not much time left they don't get the warning. So if I add time so they get the warning, I'm happy to sit there for 15 more seconds. If they are thinking then I'm happy to give them a little more time. It's a win win for me.

I don't think they get a warning if you add time. I've had losing positions were my opponent adds time for bad manners so I just quit without resigning instead and I haven't gotten a warning.
(Yes, this kind of players that add 7 minutes in a winning position when you had literally 3 seconds left)

@mpedmondson said in #1
Just take a new tab and play a new game, these time wasters are just petty people who just want to waste other people's time for beating them.

@mpedmondson said in #1:

One of my major pet peeves with online chess is when people let time run out. Especially when they don't log off so you don't have the option to claim victory.

So when I sense my opponent is just going to let the last 10-15 seconds run off the clock, I will add time so that they either have to resign or get the automated warning.

What do you think? I know game abandonment bothers me more than most because I've gotten in arguments on here with people about it.

I think it's funny.

I've been losing badly in material, position and time. Playing the best moves I can, but getting smashed every move. Not fun for me, but fun for my opponent. They were having so much fun they didn't want me to lose on time, they wanted to checkmate me, so added a whole bunch of time to my clock. That annoyed me, so I resigned.

I don't think it was bad form, but, there's a limit to how much pain I'm willing to take for my opponent's enjoyment.

I think the warnings result in a temporary ban, but you will of course never see that, as you only play against non-blocked opponents.

Also, the algorithm is already quite unforgiving... I received a warning or two in bad positions where I was trying to figure out a defense when time ran out. So this is not a trivially solvable issue.

And then there are times that the door bell goes off, or your child or dog or oven need suddenly attention of unplanned duration... not frequently, but happens. Of course, rage-quitting after a blunder is usually quite obvious.

Don't get mad about it. I would let the algorithm do its thing.

@nadjarostowa said in #9:

I think the warnings result in a temporary ban, but you will of course never see that, as you only play against non-blocked opponents.

Also, the algorithm is already quite unforgiving... I received a warning or two in bad positions where I was trying to figure out a defense when time ran out. So this is not a trivially solvable issue.

And then there are times that the door bell goes off, or your child or dog or oven need suddenly attention of unplanned duration... not frequently, but happens. Of course, rage-quitting after a blunder is usually quite obvious.

Don't get mad about it. I would let the algorithm do its thing.

Maybe they are just calculating or they just want you to get bored, it is very annoying and it can not really be stopped. They could add a thing on lichess where you can't think for more than 2.5 minutes in a 3+0 game or something.