FIDE World Fischer Random Championship – Update

Thanks for the update.

But it states that accounts with prohibited national flags will not appear in the list, and should be changed as soon as possible. However, if this is how it works, then adding those participants to the list after they change their flag means someone else who thought they are qualified would fall off the list, meaning that they would not know they need to play more qualifiers.

Would make more sense to include them on the list and send all of those qualifiers a message that they should change their flag and give a certain amount of time to do so.

Or since the policy was known, do not include any players who have a prohibited national flag when they played the qualifier, from the time it was displayed prominently in the open arenas.

I found this cool.
Good luck, players!

Guess this is successful enough to stay established for the future?

This is great news for me but I can't join this Arena I'm busy as a bee

@Dorsa1393 said in #14:

This is great news for me but I can't join this Arena I'm busy as a bee

Gsto do jogar

@umhia said in #11:

But it states that accounts with prohibited national flags will not appear in the list, and should be changed as soon as possible. However, if this is how it works, then adding those participants to the list after they change their flag means someone else who thought they are qualified would fall off the list, meaning that they would not know they need to play more qualifiers.

So, we have a tournament based on a guy who refused to not play another match with Spassky, was barred from the US, but now it is the other way around?

Oh, the irony

Re @iCANThiccupANYMORE said in #17:

So, we have a tournament based on a guy who refused to not play another match with Spassky, was barred from the US, but now it is the other way around?

Oh, the irony
I can feel the irony of fate which you mention, but do not want to delve into the global politics now, as it is a very sad topic.
Chess960 is not based on Robert James Fischer, although it is his brainchild. (Well, there were similar suggestions by other players, e.g. David Bronstein.) When playing Chess960, we are paying tribute to Fischer's chess mastery, not to his political views. We are using many inventions in everyday lives, although we might dislike some character traits of their inventors. But those are mostly irrelevant in this respect. If we suddenly learned that standard chess was invented by a mass murderer, would it dramatically change our attitude to this beautiful game? I don't think so. (Just a clarification: I have no idea who "invented" standard chess in its modern form and have no reason to believe that it was a bad person. It was just an illustration, just an example.)

sorry
i m so sorry for this words

@RealDavidNavara said in #18:

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Chess960 is not based on Robert James Fischer, although it is his brainchild. (Well, there were similar suggestions by other players, e.g. David Bronstein.) When playing Chess960, we are paying tribute to Fischer's chess mastery, not to his political views.

If we suddenly learned that standard chess was invented by a mass murderer, would it dramatically change our attitude to this beautiful game? I don't think so. (Just a clarification: I have no idea who "invented" standard chess in its modern form and have no reason to believe that it was a bad person. It was just an illustration, just an example.)

First, we sometimes confuse political stances with administrative dominance. While Fischer's case was purely political, not being able to play chess in Yugoslavia, the debate here is not where to play Chess960, but rather who could play. Or, is it just who can be listed? If you are not listed is that the final decision that you can't play? Regardless, listing seems to hold some weight here.

Using your mass murderer analogy, we are barring "Russians" from playing Chess960. This is an administrative decision, not a political one. Do we bar prison inmates who obviously were found guilty of a crime from playing in chess events like the ones mentioned here? https://soc.fide.com/2022/08/18/intercontinental-online-chess-championship-for-prisoners-registration-continues/

It doesn't matter if the person did some wrong or not, and that is the point. Putin is the one creating this mess, and I won't go into politics here, but I will comment on the administrative dominance to go overboard and punish the "inmates of Russia". They didn't even commit a crime. They are the hostages.

If a hostage wanted to play Chess960, would they be listed? Should they be listed regardless what the hostage taker's demands are? In the end, we are punishing those who can't act on their own opinion in a positive way. I remember back in grade school, when two kids didn't get along, the teacher would bring them together and make something or build something together. After a while they would become friends. Even in high school, they made a movie about it, The Breakfast Club.

That administration made it mandatory to be together, LOL.

What we are doing with the Russian conflict is exercising bullying tactics to get our way. I don't condone that any more than I do what Putin is doing. I am not blaming the American people or the people in your country either for not listing players.

I'll end here, because it is hard not to get political, and I want to stay on the administrative aspect of this. Just, let people play who want to play regardless what flag they use.