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Abandon instead of resign

Lately I have been structurally reporting my opponents to the crew if they, having arrived in a lost position, either:

  • let their time run out instead of resigning (I had several with K+Q vs. K, mate next move); or
  • abandon the game without resigning
    This is very unsportsmanlike and inmature behaviour, aside from wasting the opponent's time. In my point of view these players should be sanctioned in some way. What does lichess do with the reports?
Lately I have been structurally reporting my opponents to the crew if they, having arrived in a lost position, either: * let their time run out instead of resigning (I had several with K+Q vs. K, mate next move); or * abandon the game without resigning This is very unsportsmanlike and inmature behaviour, aside from wasting the opponent's time. In my point of view these players should be sanctioned in some way. What does lichess do with the reports?

This is very unsportsmanlike and inmature behaviour, aside from wasting the opponent's time. In my point of view these players should be sanctioned in some way. What does lichess do with the reports?

this is absolutely true, and it can really make me angry. In one case, I saw that my opponent had abandoned the game to time out, and I left the browser tab in disgust, only to remember a few minutes later that the game was incomplete.

Had he made a move, he would have won by time out!

This really is an irritant, but unfortunately, penalizing players who let their time run out or abandon the game also penalizes those players that simply have a bad or intermittent internet connection.

I have timed out of both winning and losing positions simply by playing on a phone in a subway.

>This is very unsportsmanlike and inmature behaviour, aside from wasting the opponent's time. In my point of view these players should be sanctioned in some way. What does lichess do with the reports? this is absolutely true, and it can really make me angry. In one case, I saw that my opponent had abandoned the game to time out, and I left the browser tab in disgust, only to remember a few minutes later that the game was incomplete. Had he made a move, he would have won by time out! This really is an irritant, but unfortunately, penalizing players who let their time run out or abandon the game also penalizes those players that simply have a bad or intermittent internet connection. I have timed out of both winning and losing positions simply by playing on a phone in a subway.

I don't like it when others do it, but why get mad for it? Just take it easy and leave the tab open. You can either wait for them to come back, or just claim victory after enough time has passed.

I will agree that it's an issue with the mobile apps (since you need to leave it open AFAIK), but I mostly play from a browser.

I don't like it when others do it, but why get mad for it? Just take it easy and leave the tab open. You can either wait for them to come back, or just claim victory after enough time has passed. I will agree that it's an issue with the mobile apps (since you need to leave it open AFAIK), but I mostly play from a browser.

@dskye: you're right it's not that big of a problem for me (although I would be happy to start a new game instead of waiting). But at the same time it's just a matter of normal behaviour. Why not punish someone who disrespects his opponents and the game of chess in general?
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@pwntius: you're lucky then, some people are só sad that they DO make a move and hope you don't notice..
if it happens just sometimes, it could be due to a bad internet connection. But if it happens a lot, and always in losing positions, it can hardly be coincidence. I think it's up to the crew to draw a line somewhere.

@dskye: you're right it's not that big of a problem for me (although I would be happy to start a new game instead of waiting). But at the same time it's just a matter of normal behaviour. Why not punish someone who disrespects his opponents and the game of chess in general? - @pwntius: you're lucky then, some people are só sad that they DO make a move and hope you don't notice.. if it happens just sometimes, it could be due to a bad internet connection. But if it happens a lot, and always in losing positions, it can hardly be coincidence. I think it's up to the crew to draw a line somewhere.

@Pony: "I think it's up to the crew to draw a line somewhere."

They have. You just don't like where they've drawn it.

@Pony: "I think it's up to the crew to draw a line somewhere." They have. You just don't like where they've drawn it.

This isn't the first time someone has suggested such an idea. IMHO the site should collect data so an appropriate course of action (such as displaying such a statistic somewhere on a player profile) can be determined.

This isn't the first time someone has suggested such an idea. IMHO the site should collect data so an appropriate course of action (such as displaying such a statistic somewhere on a player profile) can be determined.

@Little_Bobby_Tables
You could also copy and paste your wisdom here, as I could not find the exact answer. What I did find was this (see below)
but there is no specification of where they drew the line.

"A: If your opponent frequently aborts and/or leaves games (without resigning/drawing/winning/losing) then lichess' "playban" system will temporarly ban them from playing games for a set amount of time. The more someone leaves/aborts, the longer the ban is.

If your opponent lets their clock run down for whatever reason - usually because they're losing, the mods can't do anything about that. It's bad sport not cheating. See this link for more information: http://lichess.org/qa/547/what-to-do-about-players-that-time-down"

@Little_Bobby_Tables You could also copy and paste your wisdom here, as I could not find the exact answer. What I did find was this (see below) but there is no specification of where they drew the line. "A: If your opponent frequently aborts and/or leaves games (without resigning/drawing/winning/losing) then lichess' "playban" system will temporarly ban them from playing games for a set amount of time. The more someone leaves/aborts, the longer the ban is. If your opponent lets their clock run down for whatever reason - usually because they're losing, the mods can't do anything about that. It's bad sport not cheating. See this link for more information: http://lichess.org/qa/547/what-to-do-about-players-that-time-down"

It says in very plain English that they don't do anything about people running down their clock. There's your line. You just don't like it.

There are reasons why it makes sense to not bother, but they've been articulated ad nauseam in this forum, I can't be asked to participate in that particular debate anymore. All I'm saying is, there's no mystery here, the policy laid out in that answer is quite clear.

It says in very plain English that they don't do anything about people running down their clock. There's your line. You just don't like it. There are reasons why it makes sense to not bother, but they've been articulated ad nauseam in this forum, I can't be asked to participate in that particular debate anymore. All I'm saying is, there's no mystery here, the policy laid out in that answer is quite clear.

Then you didn't read my posts properly. I'll explain myself once again.
But first:
This forum is also for suggestions to change the rules. My suggestion is more punishment for unsportsmanlike behaviour.

Especially for you:
Initially, I described TWO DIFFERENT situations. A. people running their time out; B. people abandoning the game.

On situation A there appears to be a clear line, which I did not know of when I started this thread. You could have copied and pasted it here helpfully, or not reply to this thread at all.

On situation B it's still very vague:

"If your opponent frequently aborts and/or leaves games (without resigning/drawing/winning/losing) then lichess' "playban" system will temporarly ban them from playing games for a set amount of time. The more someone leaves/aborts, the longer the ban is."

How does that sound like a clear line to you? I'd like to see the words "frequently" and "temporarily" more specified before I can even think of liking or not liking the rules.

Then you didn't read my posts properly. I'll explain myself once again. But first: This forum is also for suggestions to change the rules. My suggestion is more punishment for unsportsmanlike behaviour. Especially for you: Initially, I described TWO DIFFERENT situations. A. people running their time out; B. people abandoning the game. On situation A there appears to be a clear line, which I did not know of when I started this thread. You could have copied and pasted it here helpfully, or not reply to this thread at all. On situation B it's still very vague: "If your opponent frequently aborts and/or leaves games (without resigning/drawing/winning/losing) then lichess' "playban" system will temporarly ban them from playing games for a set amount of time. The more someone leaves/aborts, the longer the ban is." How does that sound like a clear line to you? I'd like to see the words "frequently" and "temporarily" more specified before I can even think of liking or not liking the rules.

Players running down their clock. It's annoying, but not against the rules.

Players abandoning their games. After about 5-10 seconds, the server will give you the option to Force your win. This doesn't happen every single time for some reason, but majority of the time. The more often you win, the more often your opponents will run away from the game. It's a sort of a virtual "screw you"...

I would guess the word "frequently" depends on how often the player gets reported.

Players running down their clock. It's annoying, but not against the rules. Players abandoning their games. After about 5-10 seconds, the server will give you the option to Force your win. This doesn't happen every single time for some reason, but majority of the time. The more often you win, the more often your opponents will run away from the game. It's a sort of a virtual "screw you"... I would guess the word "frequently" depends on how often the player gets reported.

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