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95% accuracy and above for players below 1800. How is that possible without an engine

Everywhere except here I guess. 85% 90% were your last two games' opponents accuracy. I presume it was something about these? Indeed that is normal for a good game in Rapid.

Please understand that the shorter of these, in the 30's, was the higher accuracy game and that 85% was the longer move game, 60 moves +. This is fairly normal. Please also understand that it is not impossible to get a feel for the opponent's move timing, and rhythm, to understand if they are making moves shemselves. This is quite easy, actually.

Also do know that high accuracy games are not indicative of cheating necessarily. I've had 97% accuracy bullet games; but these are usually when it's very simple more or less interesting games.

Everywhere except here I guess. 85% 90% were your last two games' opponents accuracy. I presume it was something about these? Indeed that is normal for a good game in Rapid. Please understand that the shorter of these, in the 30's, was the higher accuracy game and that 85% was the longer move game, 60 moves +. This is fairly normal. Please also understand that it is not impossible to get a feel for the opponent's move timing, and rhythm, to understand if they are making moves shemselves. This is quite easy, actually. Also do know that high accuracy games are not indicative of cheating necessarily. I've had 97% accuracy bullet games; but these are usually when it's very simple more or less interesting games.
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If you lose slowly in a long game, the engine thinks you played well but lost anyway. I don't think accuracy is a good metric. It is very counterintuitive for me. Anyway, I think you can catch cheaters by how long they wait in the very simple moves. Finally, there is an ultimate tactic. Check whether they accept en passant. It is a forced move in the low elo . If they don't take it, I will report them immediately.

If you lose slowly in a long game, the engine thinks you played well but lost anyway. I don't think accuracy is a good metric. It is very counterintuitive for me. Anyway, I think you can catch cheaters by how long they wait in the very simple moves. Finally, there is an ultimate tactic. Check whether they accept en passant. It is a forced move in the low elo . If they don't take it, I will report them immediately.

https://lichess.org/study/nlbKtmxF/aIcrfT4A

It's a causal game; who would cheat in this kind of games; certainly not me?

I don't care a lot of defending my pieces in my last moves and was surprised to see a 95% accuracy.

It happens from time to time for me and you can see I am low rated.

I don't care a lot for this rating, only to see what was wrong trying to improve with the help of the analyzer.

https://lichess.org/study/nlbKtmxF/aIcrfT4A It's a causal game; who would cheat in this kind of games; certainly not me? I don't care a lot of defending my pieces in my last moves and was surprised to see a 95% accuracy. It happens from time to time for me and you can see I am low rated. I don't care a lot for this rating, only to see what was wrong trying to improve with the help of the analyzer.

High accuracy is easier to achieve depending on the opposition. This one I played 97%:

https://lichess.org/study/n0p6qGbD

I regularly see < 10 apm (97%) accuracy in my own games, sometimes to my surprise, never because of cheating.

The accuracy metric depends not only on skill, but also on the line. Sometimes, because of mistakes of your opponent, the countermove is clear and easy to spot, helping you achieve a higher accuracy. If someone with my rating can achieve that in a long game, it's clear you misunderstand the metric or it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Also the first analysis is very undeep, meaning it will find more blunders when you analyze every position to level 30.

High accuracy is easier to achieve depending on the opposition. This one I played 97%: https://lichess.org/study/n0p6qGbD I regularly see < 10 apm (97%) accuracy in my own games, sometimes to my surprise, never because of cheating. The accuracy metric depends not only on skill, but also on the line. Sometimes, because of mistakes of your opponent, the countermove is clear and easy to spot, helping you achieve a higher accuracy. If someone with my rating can achieve that in a long game, it's clear you misunderstand the metric or it doesn't mean what you think it does. Also the first analysis is very undeep, meaning it will find more blunders when you analyze every position to level 30.

@mukul_omanan said in #1:

Cheaters everywhere

I have played a 95%+ accuracy game in blitz before. It depends on the time control, when you have increment it's completely possible, especially if your opponent blunders early and most of the moves are pretty obvious.

@mukul_omanan said in #1: > Cheaters everywhere I have played a 95%+ accuracy game in blitz before. It depends on the time control, when you have increment it's completely possible, especially if your opponent blunders early and most of the moves are pretty obvious.

@mukul_omanan said in #1:

Cheaters everywhere

im barely 1300 and as a like 1100 or 1000 rated player got a 98 percent accuracy. It means nothing. Its relative to how well the opponent played you must remember, meaning if you play horribly, your opponent no matter where they move is almost guaranteed a good move.

@mukul_omanan said in #1: > Cheaters everywhere im barely 1300 and as a like 1100 or 1000 rated player got a 98 percent accuracy. It means nothing. Its relative to how well the opponent played you must remember, meaning if you play horribly, your opponent no matter where they move is almost guaranteed a good move.

I'm usually in the 80s if I win a decent game without painful blunders, but I've had 100% in short simple games and 96% in a complicated game of over 40 moves. Its just not very meaningful.

If you want to look for a cheater, look at complicated "computery" tactics -- like not a sac against the king, which literally everyone looks for even if they get it wrong, but some surprising move that no one would think to look for or make just to improve in general. If you watch any of chess.com's coverage of GM level events, the GMs are frequently pointing out tactics that the computer finds and noting that its just inhuman, even at the GM level.

I'm usually in the 80s if I win a decent game without painful blunders, but I've had 100% in short simple games and 96% in a complicated game of over 40 moves. Its just not very meaningful. If you want to look for a cheater, look at complicated "computery" tactics -- like not a sac against the king, which literally everyone looks for even if they get it wrong, but some surprising move that no one would think to look for or make just to improve in general. If you watch any of chess.com's coverage of GM level events, the GMs are frequently pointing out tactics that the computer finds and noting that its just inhuman, even at the GM level.

Then how will get a message on my opponent's 10 th move as cheat detected. Yes is it possible to find all the engines top move in one game

Then how will get a message on my opponent's 10 th move as cheat detected. Yes is it possible to find all the engines top move in one game

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