Such Nice Sac

see this variant, how should white go , and after that. see SF , it's interesting

Where's the sac? After 14. Rh3, Black can't take the knight because of Rxh8+ (not to mention that White is also threatening Bb5+).

@AsDaGo said in #2:

Where's the sac? After 14. Rh3, Black can't take the knight because of Rxh8+ (not to mention that White is also threatening Bb5+).

try line 15 R h3 , there are some Nice sacs after, if to see SF play

I see no "nice sacs". I see completely obvious 1-mive deep pseudo-sacs that should be second-nature, even in bullet.

@CG314 said in #4:

I see no "nice sacs". I see completely obvious 1-mive deep pseudo-sacs that should be second-nature, even in bullet.

I mean this variant , and sacs going after
https://lichess.org/analysis/r1b1k2r/pppn1pp1/4p2p/q5N1/3P2Q1/3B3R/P4PP1/R4K2_w_kq_-_2_2?color=white

Yes, I understand... I see nothing other than conplely obvious "sacs" which can be played on instinct.

@CG314 said in #6:

Yes, I understand... I see nothing other than conplely obvious "sacs" which can be played on instinct.

all can be "played" in instinct, but I bet you wouldn't play this whole sequence at all

I probably would... In blitz, I would play it on instinct. Nf7 screams to be your first candidate move at any time control, and in blitz, it just feels right. After the obviously forced KxN, either the Q-check or the R check are natural, I would pick one, likely Q... Doesnt matter which, since they both come in one order or the other, and lead to the same position. From there, RxN is the most consistent idea, so again feels natural. After the captures, getting the Q to e7 (i.e. the 7th rank) with a short series of short checks is again just intuitive, and now you need to get the R into play. In blitz, I would play all of these move on instinct. In classical, I would easily find the position up to Rc1... That position is obviously promising. You are down a rook, but black has two rooks completely out of play, and Bg6 threatening all sorts of mates is clearly dangling in the air.

I would pause prior to the move Rc1... Would I find it?? In blitz, maybe on a good day, but there is a decent chance that I play Re1 instead, which looks similarly good at first glance. In classical, I would surely realize that the treat of doubling majors on the 7th is much more forcing than potential pressuring of the e-pawn, or a rook lift, so would almost certainly find Rc1.

After that, its all technique, which I may or may not execute, but that is well pass the point of any nice sacs.

A "nice sac' is one that is surprising... i.e. one that works, and most would not intuitively expect it too. Everything in the above lines are routine sacs... Most chess players would expect them to work, or at a minimum think there is a good chance they do.

@CG314 said in #8:

I probably would... In blitz, I would play it on instinct. Nf7 screams to be your first candidate move at any time control, and in blitz, it just feels right. After the obviously forced KxN, either the Q-check or the R check are natural, I would pick one, likely Q... Doesnt matter which, since they both come in one order or the other, and lead to the same position. From there, RxN is the most consistent idea, so again feels natural. After the captures, getting the Q to e7 (i.e. the 7th rank) with a short series of short checks is again just intuitive, and now you need to get the R into play. In blitz, I would play all of these move on instinct. In classical, I would easily find the position up to Rc1... That position is obviously promising. You are down a rook, but black has two rooks completely out of play, and Bg6 threatening all sorts of mates is clearly dangling in the air.

I would pause prior to the move Rc1... Would I find it?? In blitz, maybe on a good day, but there is a decent chance that I play Re1 instead, which looks similarly good at first glance. In classical, I would surely realize that the treat of doubling majors on the 7th is much more forcing than potential pressuring of the e-pawn, or a rook lift, so would almost certainly find Rc1.

After that, its all technique, which I may or may not execute, but that is well pass the point of any nice sacs.

A "nice sac' is one that is surprising... i.e. one that works, and most would not intuitively expect it too. Everything in the above lines are routine sacs... Most chess players would expect them to work, or at a minimum think there is a good chance they do.

really? I haven't seen even on Lichess TV ppl playing like that, of course there is mostly bullet, but anyway

@aVague i see you became a master & crossed to 1900+